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Ariz. sheriff: I'll jail immigration protesters
July 28th, 2010 @ 5:23am

WASHINGTON (AP) - The sheriff of the most populous county in Arizona says he's "not going to put up with any civil disobedience" when the state's new immigration law takes effect.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio says that if protesters want to block his jail, he'll put them in it.

The Arizona law, which takes effect Thursday, requires officers enforcing other laws to check a person's immigration status if they suspect the person is in the country illegally.

Arpaio told ABC's "Good Morning America" he doesn't know "what the big hype is."

He says it's "a crime to be here illegally and everyone should enforce" the law.
Hahaha. I almost hope he does. I really don't think you can just grab people in front of the gates and toss them inside without some sort of procedure. Even if he can, that's not going to look good on a TV camera and will inflame the situation worse.
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This is a guy that has gotten away with well-documented cases of murder/manslaughter, extortion and theft.

As long as the retards keep voting for him, one cannot touch him.
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In a sense, I feel sorry for the guy: he's doing his job, even if the job description now requiers him to be an asshole. It's not his fault that the USA's immigration system is fucked up twice and forever.

EDIT: Wait, Thanas's post confused me. Is the guy, the sheriff, responsible for making the law or is he just enforcing it?
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Zixinus wrote:In a sense, I feel sorry for the guy: he's doing his job, even if the job description now requiers him to be an asshole. It's not his fault that the USA's immigration system is fucked up twice and forever.

EDIT: Wait, Thanas's post confused me. Is the guy, the sheriff, responsible for making the law or is he just enforcing it?

No, the sheriff is just a giant murdering thug.
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Zixinus wrote:In a sense, I feel sorry for the guy: he's doing his job, even if the job description now requiers him to be an asshole. It's not his fault that the USA's immigration system is fucked up twice and forever.
I'm fairly sure we've had stories about this guy before. He's basically about as corrupt as it's possible to get without wearing a black cowl and cacking as you talk.
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Thanas wrote:This is a guy that has gotten away with well-documented cases of murder/manslaughter, extortion and theft.

As long as the retards keep voting for him, one cannot touch him.

Do you happen to remember how much the 9th circuit court is fining the county every day he keeps Tent City in the condition it is in?

Oh and last I checked, peaceful political demonstrations were legal in the US.
I'm fairly sure we've had stories about this guy before. He's basically about as corrupt as it's possible to get without wearing a black cowl and cacking as you talk.
In a sense, I feel sorry for the guy: he's doing his job, even if the job description now requiers him to be an asshole. It's not his fault that the USA's immigration system is fucked up twice and forever.
Check this out, and read through the references as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maricopa_C ... paio[quote]

EDIT: Wait, Thanas's post confused me. Is the guy, the sheriff, responsible for making the law or is he just enforcing it?[/quote]

He is responsible for enforcing it. However he does so in a way that violates pretty much every constitutional guarantee we have. Moreover he has threatened to jail lawful demonstrators.
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Check this out, and read through the references as well.
He is responsible for enforcing it. However he does so in a way that violates pretty much every constitutional guarantee we have. Moreover he has threatened to jail lawful demonstrators.
Ah. Here I thought this was just an officer who had to enforce assholish laws. Instead, we have an officer who welcomes these laws regardless of the damage it does, doesn't do proper paperwork, unnecessarily humiliates inmates whenever possible for entertainment value and abuses them whenever possible. Now, I don't feel sorry at all for the guy.

Hell, him trying to arrest protesters on national TV might be just the thing required to get him in jail and see how he likes it.
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Zixinus wrote: EDIT: Wait, Thanas's post confused me. Is the guy, the sheriff, responsible for making the law or is he just enforcing it?
The major problem is that the sheriff likes doing everything but his job. For such a big time sheriff, his actual stats suck. He spends time and shitloads of money showing off, covering up (one of his deputies took papers from a defense attorney in court and got caught courtesy of a video camera - massive black eye to the entire Arizona judicial system given the response), and trying to intimidate local officials and judges along with his district attorney crony. So not only is he a bigot, he is incompetent to boot.
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Arpaio is an incredible scumbag. In a different time and a different country, I could easily see the man running a Nazi death camp.
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Sheriff Joe is a wanna-be Mini Dictator, obsessed that "Everyone" is out to get him, that every elected person in Arizona is corrupted, except for him.

Aside from stating that He doesn't "Need" the government" This is a man who in the middle of the night spent thousands of dollars sending 60 Officers to a "City Hall" to "Look for illegal immigrants" and turns the place upside down. Surprise surprise, the City Hall in question was investigating Arpaio for illegal activities!

His modus operandi STARTS with harassing people and making pointless arrests.

In Phoenix most recent investigation into his activities, do you know the first thing he did upon learning about it? Seek legal council? Defend himself? Speak out?
Nope. he ARRESTED the person involved on charges that are now shown to be 100% patently false.

And Lawsuits! You want to talk about lawsuits?
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He has cost my City MILLIONS because of his assholiness
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Crossroads Inc. wrote: He has cost my City MILLIONS because of his assholiness
Frankly, I think he has cost your city its honor. Why is he even still allowed to run for office? The man makes mockery of the laws he's supposed to enforce.
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PeZook wrote:
Crossroads Inc. wrote: He has cost my City MILLIONS because of his assholiness
Frankly, I think he has cost your city its honor. Why is he even still allowed to run for office? The man makes mockery of the laws he's supposed to enforce.
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Wait, that guy is ELECTED?
Perhaps you should not elect your law enforcement officers, but select them based on experience and track record?
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Serafina wrote:Wait, that guy is ELECTED?
Perhaps you should not elect your law enforcement officers, but select them based on experience and track record?
Go back to your bratwurst.

That would be un-American! How dare you suggest that any citizen of that great nation might be incapable of something? After all, isn't that the American Dream?

Why would you want to reward hard work, talent, experience and knowledge when you can just go with the guy who gives you folksy, old-timesy platitudes?
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Thom Hartmann recently had him on his show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TAxsjg_ ... eature=sub

Funny he dosent seem to have a problem with bending the law when it deals with rich white guys.
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Serafina wrote:Wait, that guy is ELECTED?
Perhaps you should not elect your law enforcement officers, but select them based on experience and track record?
I think Americans elect their judges, too. It's a system, it obviously works somewhat well. I'm just surprised that a scumbag like Sheriff Joe can run for office at all. One would think a sane country would institute a "People who perpetually break the law can't become a sheriff" rule...
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PeZook wrote:
Serafina wrote:Wait, that guy is ELECTED?
Perhaps you should not elect your law enforcement officers, but select them based on experience and track record?
I think Americans elect their judges, too. It's a system, it obviously works somewhat well. I'm just surprised that a scumbag like Sheriff Joe can run for office at all. One would think a sane country would institute a "People who perpetually break the law can't become a sheriff" rule...
Innocent until proven guilty, PeZook. As for all the lawsuits, they're civil matters, not criminal acts.

But, yes. One would think that. I suspect that they probably have, but the good folk ( :wanker: ) of Maricopa County conveniently overlook it.
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PeZook wrote:
Serafina wrote:Wait, that guy is ELECTED?
Perhaps you should not elect your law enforcement officers, but select them based on experience and track record?
I think Americans elect their judges, too. It's a system, it obviously works somewhat well. I'm just surprised that a scumbag like Sheriff Joe can run for office at all. One would think a sane country would institute a "People who perpetually break the law can't become a sheriff" rule...
Sheriff Joe plays himself up to old, bigoted white folk. As long as the see him as their champion he can pretty much get away with anything.
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote: Innocent until proven guilty, PeZook. As for all the lawsuits, they're civil matters, not criminal acts.
He (or the city, whatever - it's due to his actions) is being constantly slammed with fines for conditions in his little gulag prison, yet ignores calls to fix it. I'd think that should be more than enough.

But yeah, if he hasn't been convicted, the rule wouldn't apply, I agree. Of course, in Poland, he'd have been relieved or transferred by administrative decision, making the whole matter much cheaper and less a travesty of justice.
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Doesn't he run an open-air prison in the middle of the DESERT where convicts sleep on cots over dirt floors in tents?
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:Doesn't he run an open-air prison in the middle of the DESERT where convicts sleep on cots over dirt floors in tents?
Yes he does. It's called a 'Concentration Camp' by any other measure.
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Yes he does. It's called a 'Concentration Camp' by any other measure.
Not by his standards. Apparently, US soldiers in Iraq also live in the same conditions they do.
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Now, all my knowledge on soldiers in Iraq comes from Generation Kill and some news snippets, but don't these soldiers also get supply of water and not sleep in their body armour?
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The Soldiers in Iraq also volunteered for doing that (via duty), and have training for it. They also have the proper equipment to do it?

What do the prisoners get? A communial pit?
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Not to get too offtopic, but, as I recall, military tents also have air conditioning systems hooked up to them. They also get paid hazard pay to do so and their family can get a ton of benefits if they should die from the heat. Oh, and they have access to medics if the heat starts to affect them, whereas from everything I've heard, Arpaio doesn't offer any medical assistance to his prisoners if he can help it.
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I'm sure a survivor former inmate of such a prison is not at all going to become more extreme in his future dealings with law enforcement!
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