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(CNN) -- As the country was sinking into its worst financial crisis in more than 70 years, Security and Exchange Commission employees and contractors cruised porn sites and viewed sexually explicit pictures using government computers, according to an agency report obtained by CNN.

"During the past five years, the SEC OIG (Office of Inspector General) substantiated that 33 SEC employees and or contractors violated Commission rules and policies, as well as the government-wide Standards of Ethical Conduct, by viewing pornographic, sexually explicit or sexually suggestive images using government computer resources and official time," said a summary of the investigation by the inspector general's office.

More than half of the workers made between $99,000 and $223,000. All the cases took place over the past five years.

The inspector general's report includes specific examples of misuse by employees.

A regional office staff accountant tried to access pornographic Web sites nearly 1,800 times, using her SEC laptop during a two-week period. She also had about 600 pornographic images saved on the hard drive of her laptop.

Separately, a senior attorney at SEC headquarters admitted to downloading pornography up to eight hours a day, according to the investigation.

"In fact, this attorney downloaded so much pornography to his government computer that he exhausted the available space on the computer hard drive and downloaded pornography to CDs or DVDs that he accumulated in boxes in his office," the inspector general's report said.

"It is nothing short of disturbing that high-ranking officials within the SEC were spending more time looking at pornography than taking action to help stave off the events that brought our nation's economy to the brink of collapse," said Rep. Darrell Issa. The Republican is a ranking member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

"This stunning report should make everyone question the wisdom of moving forward with plans to give regulators like the SEC even more widespread authority," he said. "Inexplicably, rather than exercise its existing regulatory enforcement authority, SEC officials were preoccupied with other distractions."

The investigation came to light on the same day President Obama gave a speech in lower Manhattan, calling for reform in the finance industry.

On Capitol Hill, the Senate is working on a reform bill that would set up regulatory oversight of the financial industry's practices with the goal of preventing another Wall Street meltdown like the one in 2008 that launched the U.S. recession.

The bill includes an "early warning" system intended to spot signs of crisis, as well as a $50 billion liquidation fund created with money from banks and other finance industry corporations to ensure an orderly transition in closing down failing entities. It's approved by the Senate's Banking and Agricultural committees.

The House passed its version of the bill in December.
Of course, the Republicans are all, "man, they can't even do their jobs, the SEC should be eliminated." But the problem is not government, it's incompetent government*. What we really need is someone in office who will, well, make the bureaucracy efficient. Someone who's looking porn the entire goddamned work day probably isn't doing much of value for the CPQA**, so why not shitcan him?

* You see this sort of bureaucratic inefficiency not just in government, but in any high-overhead, high-capital, low-competition market (think insurance companies, big industry, investment banks).
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They need to have me watching their IT security... obviously they don't have any oversight at the moment.
Still, something tells me if we compared those stats with comparable positions in private industry the results would be shockingly similar
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Stark wrote:That's hilarious. What kind of IT team lets the workforce access porn sites? :lol:
Government IT people are notoriously uneven. I should know I once was one. Some sites and departments access policies are pretty much anything goes. And it's hard to bring up big wigs on charges of viewing Porn. It was often the case that because of reporting guidelines the people you had to report such abuses to where in fact those committing the abuses. And trying to go over your bosses head at the SEC might end up at the Director level and that's not a level you want to bring such issues up.

Also they simply might not be hiring backchecking people. Depending on how many contractors they use in their IT department there might be only one permanent person at any one site and they are to busy worrying about databases and websites to give a shit about access logs. And contractors are far less likely to give a shit unless paid directly to do so.

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At some point, some conservative is going to cite this as a way to blame the porn industry for the current fianancial crisis. This is precisely the sort of story that people who are poorly equipped to connect facts together are likely to twist to fit their agenda.
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Lagmonster wrote:At some point, some conservative is going to cite this as a way to blame the porn industry for the current fianancial crisis. This is precisely the sort of story that people who are poorly equipped to connect facts together are likely to twist to fit their agenda.
I disagree. They'll be having too much fun going "Govt. sux fire everyone except me lol" to worry about it.
Unless you're counting conservative religious types, in which case I'll be surprised if it didn't come out by one or another, even at the local level, by the end of the week.
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Separately, a senior attorney at SEC headquarters admitted to downloading pornography up to eight hours a day, according to the investigation.

"In fact, this attorney downloaded so much pornography to his government computer that he exhausted the available space on the computer hard drive and downloaded pornography to CDs or DVDs that he accumulated in boxes in his office," the inspector general's report said.
Jesus. That guy has some kind of problem.

Stark wrote:That's hilarious. What kind of IT team lets the workforce access porn sites? :lol:
The kind of IT team under orders from management to not implement filters? A bunch of upper-level guys complain about filters "making their job harder, we're all adults" and maybe the management decides filters aren't needed.

Mr Bean wrote:Depending on how many contractors they use in their IT department there might be only one permanent person at any one site and they are to busy worrying about databases and websites to give a shit about access logs.
Even in an educational environment (where we're required to make all feasible efforts to comply with CIPA) we don't go back and check people's logs, unless we're given reason to think they're abusing their use of the internet; now this can be set off by the filter flagging an excessive amount of denied access attempts, but for the most part we're not interested in how any one staff member uses the internet unless HR comes down and says they think the person is abusing their internet access.
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The killer here is that practically all of these people must have been Bush appointees. I.e. conservatives.
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Edi wrote:The killer here is that practically all of these people must have been Bush appointees. I.e. conservatives.
Does that follow? I had been under the impression that the sort of people we're talking about here are ordinary employees, not political appointees.
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I just don't understand how anyone could watch that much porn. I mean, I have nothing against porn, but downloading it for 8 straight hours? 1,800 visits to porn sites in a two-week period (5 times a day)? Seriously, who the fuck needs to jack off to porn five times a day, at their god-damned office?
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Surlethe wrote:
Edi wrote:The killer here is that practically all of these people must have been Bush appointees. I.e. conservatives.
Does that follow? I had been under the impression that the sort of people we're talking about here are ordinary employees, not political appointees.
I think that people in the 100k to 220k pay-range would have a higher proportion of political involvement in their appointments then for lower pay grades.
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Ziggy Stardust wrote:I just don't understand how anyone could watch that much porn. I mean, I have nothing against porn, but downloading it for 8 straight hours? 1,800 visits to porn sites in a two-week period (5 times a day)? Seriously, who the fuck needs to jack off to porn five times a day, at their god-damned office?
It could be that they downloaded 1 or 2 DVDs which might take 8 hours, the 1800 visits might be looking at a gallery of photos. Its 180 a day, and if its 5 times a day then thats 2 or 3 galleries of photos per session. 5 sessions is still a lot, even if they were 13 year old boys.
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Ziggy Stardust wrote:I just don't understand how anyone could watch that much porn. I mean, I have nothing against porn, but downloading it for 8 straight hours? 1,800 visits to porn sites in a two-week period (5 times a day)? Seriously, who the fuck needs to jack off to porn five times a day, at their god-damned office?
If your average porn movie file size is between 200-700mb, or even a few gigs, you can just set the file to download and forget about it while you do other stuff. So it's actually not that difficult if you're visiting any kind of torrent sites, and really quite easy to accumulate a fairly beefy collection over the course of a year or two; my own porn folder at home is somewhere around 300gb. (Still a massive abuse of government resources, of course).
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General Zod wrote:
Ziggy Stardust wrote:I just don't understand how anyone could watch that much porn. I mean, I have nothing against porn, but downloading it for 8 straight hours? 1,800 visits to porn sites in a two-week period (5 times a day)? Seriously, who the fuck needs to jack off to porn five times a day, at their god-damned office?
If your average porn movie file size is between 200-700mb, or even a few gigs, you can just set the file to download and forget about it while you do other stuff. So it's actually not that difficult if you're visiting any kind of torrent sites, and really quite easy to accumulate a fairly beefy collection over the course of a year or two; my own porn folder at home is somewhere around 300gb. (Still a massive abuse of government resources, of course).
Or feeding them to a download manager if the local admin policy (or the lack of it) and the site in question allowed that. Load up a bunch of urls and let the app work in the background. If they are political appointees, I wouldn't be surprised if they had more lax net access and computer admin regulations than the average office drone. Also possibly he was a big porn packratsite backuper... :)
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That's even better; not filtering sites is bad enough (ps no legitmate reason to go there, paying staff to work etc) but not even setting quotas or having mechanisms to manage excessive use? That's fucked up.

We let people know if they're using too much bulk looking at Facebook photos, and the whole idea of facebook not being blocked is stupid. This is seriously retarded and mismanagement from the top down. If only you guys had expectations and rules for staff? :lol:
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How very convenient that, right as congress is trying to pass a contentious financial reform bill, a big scandal erupts over people at the SEC watching porn. This isn't a new thing; for years, the SEC semiannual reports have been mentioning the problems they have with some employees porning it up when they should be working, and this hasn't been a big story until now, when it's politically convenient to discredit the SEC in the public eye.

The fact that this becomes a big news story now, of all times, makes it look like a propaganda maneuver to defeat financial reform.
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Surlethe wrote:
Edi wrote:The killer here is that practically all of these people must have been Bush appointees. I.e. conservatives.
Does that follow? I had been under the impression that the sort of people we're talking about here are ordinary employees, not political appointees.
Moving political appointees to career positions(Thus, much harder to replace) is called 'Burrowing' and has happened throughout history. The Bush administration was especially blatant about it, especially in the DOJ.
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Stark wrote:That's hilarious. What kind of IT team lets the workforce access porn sites? :lol:
Government IT people are notoriously uneven. I should know I once was one. Some sites and departments access policies are pretty much anything goes. And it's hard to bring up big wigs on charges of viewing Porn. It was often the case that because of reporting guidelines the people you had to report such abuses to where in fact those committing the abuses. And trying to go over your bosses head at the SEC might end up at the Director level and that's not a level you want to bring such issues up.

Also they simply might not be hiring backchecking people. Depending on how many contractors they use in their IT department there might be only one permanent person at any one site and they are to busy worrying about databases and websites to give a shit about access logs. And contractors are far less likely to give a shit unless paid directly to do so.
Well I know that there are alot of rules that been put in place over the last few years trying to put a stop to this sort of stuff happening. Instead of the local IT people dealing with the issues it is delt with by external agencies. For example the computer network here in Germany, including all military and government systems are routinely scanned by 3 groups. The first group is the local IT, mostly tech support type stuff but also system admin, IA and others. The group is the Enterprise service center which does more invasive scans. The last group is DISA (Defense Information Systems Agency) which handles everything. All three are looking for problems.

Example is one day I get a call middle of the night shift telling me that ip adress so and so is messed up to say the least. We on the local in are given a set length of time to rectify the issue before they do. So we go into the router and deny that computer access to the network and then track down the computer and the user.
Turns out the user was a 1 star general and was looking at porn.

It also turns out that our network was being monitored by multiple other 3 letter agencies.

So out of curiosity I took a look at the scanning procedures for the SEC and they have multiple tiers of IT support both in and out house. But then the date of the rules are only in the last couple of years so who knows how much crap was on their system before then.
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Stark wrote:That's even better; not filtering sites is bad enough (ps no legitmate reason to go there, paying staff to work etc) but not even setting quotas or having mechanisms to manage excessive use? That's fucked up.

We let people know if they're using too much bulk looking at Facebook photos, and the whole idea of facebook not being blocked is stupid. This is seriously retarded and mismanagement from the top down. If only you guys had expectations and rules for staff? :lol:
Like Bean pointed out, it's very uneven. Something like this would have never got off the ground on a DoD network, for example. Although even the "draconian" DoD networks are schizophrenic. When I was on the JCS network MySpace/Youtube/buncha youtube clones/streaming audio from radio stations/ were blocked...but for some reason Hulu wasn't.
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So like 33 people were caught looking at porn at the SEC (an organization with over 3000 employees) over a 5 year period? This is news?
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Flagg wrote:So like 33 people were caught looking at porn at the SEC (an organization with over 3000 employees) over a 5 year period? This is news?
News aren't born, they are made.

Or rather - it's news when the media consider it newswhorty, regardless on the actual impact or novelty.
This is newsworthy due to the insane attitude towards pornography in the USA and the financial crysis. This story is perfect to spin it in way that says "see, they are corrupt bastards who did nothing" - regardless of wether that statement is fatually true or not.
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Goldman-Sachs is in trouble with the SEC and suddenly a 33 person porn "scandal" is being pushed as big news. How convenient.
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Flagg wrote:So like 33 people were caught looking at porn at the SEC (an organization with over 3000 employees) over a 5 year period? This is news?
If it was the janitors, no. If it were the bosses, and they were being highly negligent of their responsibilities in exchange for creating a room full of porn, then I'd say the question is valid regardless of the numbers.
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Regardless of if they were appointees or not, the Bush administration failed to watch the watchers.





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Lonestar wrote: Like Bean pointed out, it's very uneven. Something like this would have never got off the ground on a DoD network, for example. Although even the "draconian" DoD networks are schizophrenic. When I was on the JCS network MySpace/Youtube/buncha youtube clones/streaming audio from radio stations/ were blocked...but for some reason Hulu wasn't.
DoD departments would also have laws and regulations from above stating how network resources are to be manage, I presume. Would the same necessarily apply to the SEC, or would that be purely at the discretion of the SEC office management?
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