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Three gunmen, one in custody, two on the loose...

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At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on Thursday.
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Just saw this on MSNBC, no details. Shit, I know some pople there. :shock:
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Coyote wrote:Just saw this on MSNBC, no details. Shit, I know some pople there. :shock:
I've got a cousin there at the moment, watching the news for more info.

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Two simultaneous attacks, one on the base theater, the other on the Soldier Readiness Center. Word from the herd is that one terrorist is dead, two others are holed up in a building.
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There's evidence this is actual anti-US gov't terrorism and not just something impelled by bad relationships or commanders or something minor like that?
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Surlethe wrote:There's evidence this is actual anti-US gov't terrorism and not just something impelled by bad relationships or commanders or something minor like that?

Two attacks at once implies it isn't just some pissed off E4.

EDIT: Which is, of course, not to say it couldn't have been a pair of losers like "Columbine", but still...
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MSNBC just reported that the shooter they have in custody is an Army Major, further report that it was an Arabic sounding name, what ever that means.
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Lonestar wrote:
Surlethe wrote:There's evidence this is actual anti-US gov't terrorism and not just something impelled by bad relationships or commanders or something minor like that?

Two attacks at once implies it isn't just some pissed off E4.

EDIT: Which is, of course, not to say it couldn't have been a pair of losers like "Columbine", but still...
Yeah, if it's two different location, it's not pissed off lower ranks, or even higher ranks if it is indeed a Major.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong

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Turns out I don't have a cousin there. My cousin is on leave visiting our grandmother/ her mother at the moment because my grandmother just called me to ask if I had seen the news. Lovely... Ok so the shooting was crowd targeted. Second hand word I have is that someone walked into the base theater and opened up and two or more possible shooters opened up on the graduation crowd right before ceremonies started.

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guy on the TV, Army spokesman of some sort just said that the 'confirmed shooter' was shot dead. Soooo, if they have one in custody, and one dead, they only have one on the run.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong

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Ah, here we go. From the TV so I'm paraphraseing;

One guy with two pistols shot all the people at the Soldier Readiness Center. Local security, MP's or contractors, responded and shot dead the shooter. Two more people are detained for some sort of connection. One cop (MP?) shot while engaging the shooter.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong

But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
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12 dead and 31 wounded now being reported; they may also have now captured two people but that may be a misreporting of one live capture, and one corpse.
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Just got back from there a week and a half ago. Calling some buddies up there to see if they're all ok.

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Watching CNN is seems as if one soldier opened fire in the Readiness Center with a pair of pistols and was shot dead by the response team after killing eleven other people. Two other soldiers are in custody on suspicion of involvement but the only one known at this time to have been shooting was the suspect that was killed. It seems like it may be a lone rampage rather than a domestic terrorist attack, after all.
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shooter ID'd as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. I'm still shocked that an army Major would do something like this. And fuck it all that the guy has an arabic-sounding name. I just hope people aren't jumping to their own conclusions about what happened based on the guy's name alone.
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irishmick79 wrote:shooter ID'd as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. I'm still shocked that an army Major would do something like this. And fuck it all that the guy has an arabic-sounding name. I just hope people aren't jumping to their own conclusions about what happened based on the guy's name alone.
Yeah boy it would really be hard to jump to a conclusion based upon his name.
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Lonestar wrote:
irishmick79 wrote:shooter ID'd as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. I'm still shocked that an army Major would do something like this. And fuck it all that the guy has an arabic-sounding name. I just hope people aren't jumping to their own conclusions about what happened based on the guy's name alone.
Yeah boy it would really be hard to jump to a conclusion based upon his name.
You know there are some assholes out there doing it right now, though.

More news is reporting that the shooter was a mental health professional. Wow.
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irishmick79 wrote:
You know there are some assholes out there doing it right now, though.

:roll:

You can tell a lot about a person by his name. "Malik Nadal Hasan" suggests he was either raised in an Islamic household, or decided to convert at some point. It isn't too hard to make the leap from there.
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How often does someone as highly-ranked as a MAJOR go apeshit and kill people? I can imagine some pissed-off E2 stuck in the motor pool, but a Major?
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:How often does someone as highly-ranked as a MAJOR go apeshit and kill people? I can imagine some pissed-off E2 stuck in the motor pool, but a Major?
It's NOT unheard of nor impossible, although it is much rarer: even the higher-ups have their share of mentally deficient, dangerously aggressive or people prone to snapping. Usually it doesn't result in deaths, though, although sometimes it may have been a near-case (I recall at least several, admittedly dismissed, officers of the Finnish army who stole equipment from garrisons, although I don't remember anyone actually using them - they sold them).
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So the news says there's multiple suspects in custody, and I have no clue what's going on.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:How often does someone as highly-ranked as a MAJOR go apeshit and kill people? I can imagine some pissed-off E2 stuck in the motor pool, but a Major?
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Streaming news, via CNN, is available here

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Latest news is that other suspects have been released; it appears that the Major acted alone. Whether it's PTSD, Sudden Jihad Syndrome or just plain nutcasery is something we don't know and may take some investigation to find out. However, the Major was a late-life convert to Islam and that does point to SJS.
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Just heard this on the news - he is an army doctor - a psychiatrist to boot. He didn't want to go to Iraq. He is a muslim.
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