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Obama expects GOP to attack his patriotism
Republicans’ only option is to paint Democrat as ‘very risky choice’

MSNBC wrote:NEW YORK - A day after he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama said Wednesday that he expected an organized Republican attack on his integrity and patriotism because “it’s very hard for them to talk about where they want to take the country.”

Obama, a first-term senator from Illinois, touched on a variety of issues in a wide-ranging interview with Brian Williams, anchor of “NBC Nightly News.” Among them were what roles his defeated rival for the nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and her husband, the former president, might play in his campaign, as well as how soon he expected to debate his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain.

The important thing, Obama said, is to find the best way to build a united Democratic fall campaign to answer what he expects to be a Republican assault on his devotion to America — “the attempt to paint me as a very risky choice.”
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Obama said he was bracing for Republican attacks not only on “national security but partly around cultural issues.”

Obama, 46, the first black candidate ever nominated by a major party for president, characterized the likely Republican message as: “You know, he’s got a funny name. And we don’t know where he’s coming from. And, you know, he may be not sufficiently patriotic.

“I think that’s going to be the race they run.”

‘Identical to George Bush’
Obama suggested that the Republicans saw a coordinated personal attack as their only way to keep the White House.

“If we end up debating the issues and governance and how we’re going to move this country forward, I think the Democrats are going to win, and I think I’ll be president,” he said.

Obama signaled his intent to tie McCain closely to President Bush, whose approval ratings remain extremely low. He outlined what he said were sharp differences on the war in Iraq, universal health care and tax cuts. On all three issues, he said, Bush and McCain were on the losing side.

McCain may cry foul when Democrats tie his economic platform to those of President Bush, Obama said, but “the central plank of his economic policy is to continue the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and then to add an additional $300 billion worth of tax cuts for corporations.”

“That will not, I think, balance the budget,” he said.

Moreover, Obama said, “essentially, his position on Iraq is identical to George Bush’s at this point. And so there’s going to be some very sharp contrasts.”

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Obama welcomes Clintons’ involvement
Crucial to answering the Republican charges, Obama said, was putting aside raw feelings from a fractious primary campaign and marshaling all of the Democratic Party’s resources. That includes making significant use of the Clintons, he said.

Obama said he bore no hard feelings over the occasionally bruising campaigning style of the former president, who made the case for his wife on the stump in terms that some Obama supporters considered insulting and demeaning.

“Look, there is nobody who is more talented, there’s nobody more gifted, than Bill Clinton when it comes to not just politics but understanding the broad crosscurrents of America,” Obama said.

Obama said he respected the former president for fighting so hard to preserve his own legacy, adding, “Understandably, he thinks that his wife would have been the best person to continue that legacy.

“But my strong feeling is that moving forward, I’m going to need Bill Clinton involved in this process,” Obama said. “He still is a transcendent political figure in this country. And I want him involved. And I’ll be looking for his counsel and his advice.”

Obama would not be drawn into specifying what roles he saw for the Clintons, sidestepping speculation that he might ask Hillary Clinton to join the ticket.

“I don’t think Senator Clinton expects a quick decision. And I don’t even know that she’s necessarily interested in that,” he said.

No concern over party divisions
In the end, he said, he expects Democrats of all stripes to rally to his side.

“You’ll recall in 2000, there were all sorts of John McCain supporters who said, ‘We’ll never vote for George Bush.’ And they ended up voting for George Bush,” he said. “You know, it's happened before.”

Because of the length of the primary campaign, Obama must immediately turn his attention to the fight against McCain. He acknowledged that that gave him little time to reflect on the historic nature of his nomination as the first black presidential nominee in the country’s history.

Still, he said, he had been touched by the stories of people he encountered who had clearly invested centuries of hopes and dreams in his campaign:

“Probably the most powerful story I heard was today at a conference. A woman came up to me. She said her son teaches in an inner-city school in San Francisco and said that he has seen a change in behavior among the young African-American boys there in terms of how they think about their studies.

“So those are the kinds of things that I think make you appreciate that,” he said. “It’s not about you as an individual, but it’s about our country and the progress we’ve made.”
I love this guy; he already knows what's coming and he knows exactly what to brace for. Here again he shows just why he's going to be the next president of the country; he's straightforward, honest, and has that rare trait of common sense.
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Damn--hit submit, meant to hit preview to check my quote tags. :x Sorry.
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Fleet Admiral JD wrote:Damn--hit submit, meant to hit preview to check my quote tags. :x Sorry.
Fixed
Yes, attacking Obama is limited to

1. Inexperienced
2. Unpatriotic
3. He's a secret Muslim!
And lastly
4. Elitist!

Look for combinations of those four attack vectors, because it's really all they got(Baring photo-shop pictures of Vegas gay orgy with him, Al Gore and Al Fraken)

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Mr Bean wrote:
Fleet Admiral JD wrote:Damn--hit submit, meant to hit preview to check my quote tags. :x Sorry.
Fixed
Yes, attacking Obama is limited to

1. Inexperienced
2. Unpatriotic
3. He's a secret Muslim!
And lastly
4. Elitist!

Look for combinations of those four attack vectors, because it's really all they got(Baring photo-shop pictures of Vegas gay orgy with him, Al Gore and Al Fraken)
Thank you sir.

And yes, the Republicans cannot do much to refute his actual message, which even this statement goes to further; he has a new way of doing things and he won't stand for the old way of doing politics: he is the straight talk that McCain emptily promises.
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Mr Bean wrote:
Fleet Admiral JD wrote:Damn--hit submit, meant to hit preview to check my quote tags. :x Sorry.
Fixed
Yes, attacking Obama is limited to

1. Inexperienced
2. Unpatriotic
3. He's a secret Muslim!
And lastly
4. Elitist!

Look for combinations of those four attack vectors, because it's really all they got(Baring photo-shop pictures of Vegas gay orgy with him, Al Gore and Al Fraken)
You forgot 'HE'S BLACK'.

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I've already seen this asked on another forum dominated by Republicans...

Q: What do you call a black man who's President of the United States?

A: A nigger

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Galvatron wrote:I've already seen this asked on another forum dominated by Republicans...

Q: What do you call a black man who's President of the United States?

A: A nigger

:shock:
That's an old joke rephrased. I've heard it as 'What do you call a millionaire, nobel-prize-winning surgeon from africa' and 'What do you call a black guy who pulls people out of a burning building'.

Of course, it was a 'tell the most offensive joke you can' contest.
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I know, but it strikes me that this is what the election will all boil down to for a lot of people.
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I feel that we've only scratched the surface of attacks on Obama, and the GOP is going to spawn more memes than 4chan this election season in an attempt to find something they can stick to him.
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Does the GOP at least have enough sense to tell Bush to shut the fuck up during the campaign?
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Galvatron wrote:Does the GOP at least have enough sense to tell Bush to shut the fuck up during the campaign?
Bush seems to be doing a pretty good job of that on his own.
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Galvatron wrote:Does the GOP at least have enough sense to tell Bush to shut the fuck up during the campaign?
Bush seems to be doing a pretty good job of that on his own.
He finished being President a few months ago. He doesn't care anymore; I mean, really, he's done next to nothing recently. He's riding out his term so he can go be baseball comissioner or something after he gets out.
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Mr Bean wrote:
Fleet Admiral JD wrote:Damn--hit submit, meant to hit preview to check my quote tags. :x Sorry.
Fixed
Yes, attacking Obama is limited to

1. Inexperienced
2. Unpatriotic
3. He's a secret Muslim!
And lastly
4. Elitist!

Look for combinations of those four attack vectors, because it's really all they got(Baring photo-shop pictures of Vegas gay orgy with him, Al Gore and Al Fraken)
Don't forget the classics:

1. Abortion
2. School Vouchers
3. Guns
4. Not leaving Iraq
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CaptainZoidberg wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:
Fleet Admiral JD wrote:Damn--hit submit, meant to hit preview to check my quote tags. :x Sorry.
Fixed
Yes, attacking Obama is limited to

1. Inexperienced
2. Unpatriotic
3. He's a secret Muslim!
And lastly
4. Elitist!

Look for combinations of those four attack vectors, because it's really all they got(Baring photo-shop pictures of Vegas gay orgy with him, Al Gore and Al Fraken)
Don't forget the classics:

1. Abortion
2. School Vouchers
3. Guns
4. Not leaving Iraq
Why bother with those? At least a third of the country won't vote for a black guy, and if they can make the Muslim/Unpatriotic/Inexperienced/Elitist charges stick, they might actually have a chance.

The GOP can't come out and say "don't vote for the black guy." They'll have to do what Hillary did and use code, such as "working-class voters" which really means "racist white trash."
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I like how he basically says "Bill is pretty cool, but Hillary can go fuck herself"
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SirNitram wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:
Fleet Admiral JD wrote:Damn--hit submit, meant to hit preview to check my quote tags. :x Sorry.
Fixed
Yes, attacking Obama is limited to

1. Inexperienced
2. Unpatriotic
3. He's a secret Muslim!
And lastly
4. Elitist!

Look for combinations of those four attack vectors, because it's really all they got(Baring photo-shop pictures of Vegas gay orgy with him, Al Gore and Al Fraken)
You forgot 'HE'S BLACK'.

The bottom of the barrel will be standard fare this election. Every dirty trick will be used.
And I think that the result will eventually be that people in the US are about to set foot on a path that will lead to them to at last looking past race, gender and culture to looking at the policy of a human being that may or may not better their lot in life, that will be the result of this primary and Obama's legacy. Martin Luther King Jr would be proud, his dream might come true.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Galvatron wrote:Does the GOP at least have enough sense to tell Bush to shut the fuck up during the campaign?
Bush seems to be doing a pretty good job of that on his own.
He finished being President a few months ago. He doesn't care anymore; I mean, really, he's done next to nothing recently. He's riding out his term so he can go be baseball comissioner or something after he gets out.
Goddamnit, he'll finish the destruction of MLB that started with the Player's Strike and Steroids.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I've already seen this asked on another forum dominated by Republicans...

Q: What do you call a black man who's President of the United States?

A: A nigger

:shock:
That's an old joke rephrased. I've heard it as 'What do you call a millionaire, nobel-prize-winning surgeon from africa' and 'What do you call a black guy who pulls people out of a burning building'.

Of course, it was a 'tell the most offensive joke you can' contest.
I met a guy once from one of the Southern states (judging by his accent) who thought that "I like black people. Everyone should own one" was an absolutely hilarious joke. No doubt he will concoct a lot of reasons why he should vote for McCain over Obama, as if he ever seriously considered the choice in the first place.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I've already seen this asked on another forum dominated by Republicans...

Q: What do you call a black man who's President of the United States?

A: A nigger

:shock:
That's an old joke rephrased. I've heard it as 'What do you call a millionaire, nobel-prize-winning surgeon from africa' and 'What do you call a black guy who pulls people out of a burning building'.

Of course, it was a 'tell the most offensive joke you can' contest.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I've already seen this asked on another forum dominated by Republicans...

Q: What do you call a black man who's President of the United States?

A: A nigger

:shock:
That's an old joke rephrased. I've heard it as 'What do you call a millionaire, nobel-prize-winning surgeon from africa' and 'What do you call a black guy who pulls people out of a burning building'.

Of course, it was a 'tell the most offensive joke you can' contest.
Nice people you call friends. Do you typically participate in racist joke contests with friends?
You tell me. It was in testing two years ago.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:
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CaptainChewbacca wrote: That's an old joke rephrased. I've heard it as 'What do you call a millionaire, nobel-prize-winning surgeon from africa' and 'What do you call a black guy who pulls people out of a burning building'.

Of course, it was a 'tell the most offensive joke you can' contest.
Nice people you call friends. Do you typically participate in racist joke contests with friends?
You tell me. It was in testing two years ago.

So, that was a yes? :lol:
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:
You tell me. It was in testing two years ago.
An you can find it stickied in this forum as refuge from political correctness...
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Mr Bean wrote:Look for combinations of those four attack vectors, because it's really all they got(Baring photo-shop pictures of Vegas gay orgy with him, Al Gore and Al Fraken)
Thank you for leaving Michael Moore off that list.
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SancheztheWhaler wrote:The GOP can't come out and say "don't vote for the black guy." They'll have to do what Hillary did and use code, such as "working-class voters" which really means "racist white trash."
A huge problem is the Latino community. They hate hate HATE blacks and Obama. Unless the Democrats do a good job pandering to them, there is a good chance they will vote McCain over Obama (as some polls have indicated). I don't know why they hate blacks so much that they would rather vote for a party which is pretty blatantly set on blaming Latinos for all of this countries economic problems, but hey ...
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Hence why I am really pro-Richardson for VP. Unfortunately, I'd say that its more traditional, recent-immigrant, still living in immigrant or ethnic communities, religious, and poor Latinos which fit your description. Which unfortunately, when we're talking about Latinos are a semi-cohesive voting bloc, is basically all of them. Assimilated and well-off ones like me "don't count."
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