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Sex Toy Ban In Texas Overturned

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Texas, it's like a whole other country. Well, slightly less so, now:
Appeals court overturns Texas ban on sex toys

Companies’ lawsuit claimed state shouldn’t regulate private adult behavior

The Associated Press

updated 9:12 p.m. ET, Wed., Feb. 13, 2008

FORT WORTH, Texas - A federal appeals court has overturned a Texas statute outlawing sex toy sales, leaving Alabama as the state with the strictest ban on such devices.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Texas law making it illegal to sell or promote obscene devices, punishable by up to two years in jail, violated the Constitution's 14th Amendment on the right to privacy.

Companies that own Dreamer's and Le Rouge Boutique, which sell the devices in its Austin stores, and the retail distributor Adam & Eve, sued in Austin federal court in 2004 over the constitutionality of the law. They appealed after a federal judge dismissed the suit and said the constitution did not protect their right to publicly promote such devices.

In its decision Tuesday, the appeals court cited Lawrence and Garner v. Texas, the U.S. Supreme Court's 2003 opinion that struck down bans on consensual sex between gay couples.

"Just as in Lawrence, the state here wants to use its laws to enforce a public moral code by restricting private intimate conduct," the appeals judges wrote. "The case is not about public sex. It is not about controlling commerce in sex. It is about controlling what people do in the privacy of their own homes because the state is morally opposed to a certain type of consensual private intimate conduct. This is an insufficient justification after Lawrence."

The Texas Attorney General's Office, which represented the Travis County district attorney in the case, has not decided whether to appeal, said agency spokesman Tom Kelley.

Phil Harvey, president of Adam & Eve Inc., said the 5th Circuit Court's decision was a big step forward. He said his business plans to expand to sell in stores and at home parties, something company consultants had been fearful to do because of the Texas law.

"I think it's wonderful, but it does seem to me that since Texas was one of three states in the country — along with Mississippi and Alabama — that continued to outlaw the sale of sex toys and vibrators, that it was probably past time," Harvey said Wednesday.

Alabama is in the 11th Circuit. But now it's unlikely that the law in Mississippi, which also is in the 5th Circuit, will be prosecuted, some legal experts said.

Virginia's law barring obscene items is different from other state laws and does not seem to apply to sex toy sales, said Harvey, whose company distributes nationwide.

Louisiana, Kansas and Colorado had laws barring obscene devices, but courts have since struck them down, the 5th Circuit judges wrote in their ruling. The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals struck down a Georgia law banning the advertising of sex toys, which can be sold under some approved circumstances.

The 5th Circuit Court's decision is encouraging for Sherri Williams, who has been fighting the issue in Alabama for a decade. Williams, who owns Pleasures stores in Alabama, sued in 1998 after state lawmakers banned the sale of sex toys there. A year ago, she lost her fight again when the U.S. Supreme Court refused to consider a lower court decision upholding the Alabama law as constitutional.

Williams hopes that lawmakers will take notice of the recent Texas case and support a newly filed bill in the Alabama Legislature to overturn the ban on adult toy sales.

"I think the courts are finally listening to the people," Williams said Wednesday. "You have `Sex and the City,' `Desperate Housewives' and other shows promoting what society is doing. I think the courts have finally opened their eyes and looked around, which is a miracle in the South."
This is laughable in that such things were ever banned in the first place.

It's stories like this that make me especially glad I live on the East Coast and not bumstink Alabama.

Out where I live, they actually (shock of all shocks) have advertisements on the radio for a number of sex toy shops in both Philadelphia and the suburbs. On late night TV there are goofy ads for phone sex (straight and gay!!!). If I buy the Philadelphia Daily News, the entire Sports section is filled with ads for strip clubs and other purveyors of adult entertainment, complete with black and white pictures of "adult entertainers," scantily clad in costumes that show off their surgically enhanced physiques, more phone sex ads and other filth, and thanks be to Christ on his splintery stick, I like it that way.
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I'm confused as to why they were banned in the first place.

Anyways, can't pretty much any object be used as an aid to masturbation, if wielded effectively? BAN THE WORLD!!!
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Zablorg wrote:I'm confused as to why they were banned in the first place.
Because women are supposed to take no interest in sex, other than dutifully allowing their husbands to inflict it upon them for the sake of procreation. Haven't you read your Bible? There are whole books of lesser prophets in the Old Testament which are devoted to ranting about the decadence of Persian civilization, with its women who parade around in jewelery and fancy clothing, and act like "harlots".

Remember the old fundie slogan, "sex is for procreation not recreation"? There was once a time when any sexual act other than procreative sex was considered "sodomy" (this included oral sex, fondling, etc) and punishable by imprisonment or worse.
Anyways, can't pretty much any object be used as an aid to masturbation, if wielded effectively? BAN THE WORLD!!!
That's not their reason. Their reason is to deliberately suppress female sexual pleasure-seeking.
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The article's incorrect... sales of sex toys are illegal in Georgia as well, though as in other states you can get around it by selling them "for novelty purposes only".
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Zablorg wrote:I'm confused as to why they were banned in the first place.
My theory is that fundamentalists deliberately suppress sexual urges in order to generate pent-up frustration which can be put to better uses, such as torture, warfare, and sundry other forms of violence against fellow humanity.
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:My theory is that fundamentalists deliberately suppress sexual urges in order to generate pent-up frustration which can be put to better uses, such as torture, warfare, and sundry other forms of violence against fellow humanity.
Still, I just know that some of these old Puritanical twits has a secret stash of strap-ons so he can get his freak on with the missus, especially when the spirit is willin' but the body isn't.
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FSTargetDrone wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:My theory is that fundamentalists deliberately suppress sexual urges in order to generate pent-up frustration which can be put to better uses, such as torture, warfare, and sundry other forms of violence against fellow humanity.
Still, I just know that some of these old Puritanical twits has a secret stash of strap-ons so he can get his freak on with the missus, especially when the spirit is willin' but the body isn't.
Replace "missus" with "small boy" and you're closer to the truth.
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The idea of wasting money and time to prosecute and possibly incarcerate someone for this is beyond comprehension.
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Flagg wrote:
FSTargetDrone wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:My theory is that fundamentalists deliberately suppress sexual urges in order to generate pent-up frustration which can be put to better uses, such as torture, warfare, and sundry other forms of violence against fellow humanity.
Still, I just know that some of these old Puritanical twits has a secret stash of strap-ons so he can get his freak on with the missus, especially when the spirit is willin' but the body isn't.
Replace "missus" with "small boy" and you're closer to the truth.
Well yeah, particularly in the higher income brackets. Not only will repressed sexuality express itself in profoundly more destructive ways than had it not been blocked, but people with more money can essentially pay problems (such as Congressional page boys) to go away whereas poor people will get the full force of the law given similar or usually less severe circumstances.
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Superman wrote:The idea of wasting money and time to prosecute and possibly incarcerate someone for this is beyond comprehension.
Not in Texas. Or most of the south, really.
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Flagg wrote:
Superman wrote:The idea of wasting money and time to prosecute and possibly incarcerate someone for this is beyond comprehension.
Not in Texas. Or most of the south, really.
A balanced budget, stable society, functioning economy, and police forces and courts that aren't overburdened to breaking point take a back seat to legislation and enforcement of byzantine morality statutes based upon vague myths or corporate protectionism on poor and middle-income people.
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DPDarkPrimus wrote:The article's incorrect... sales of sex toys are illegal in Georgia as well, though as in other states you can get around it by selling them "for novelty purposes only".
It doesnt say nowhere else has bans, just that since Texas is out of the race Alabama has taken the front spot for stupid penalties :D
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Flagg wrote:Replace "missus" with "small boy" and you're closer to the truth.
Blech! I didn't have that thought in my mind before you said this. Thanks a lot.
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In other news: Houston was destroyed by a massive earthquake, believed to be link to the simultaneous activation of several million vibrators.
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Hooray! The 20th Century!

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I never thought I'd see the day. Alabama should take a hint from this.
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Oni Koneko Damien wrote:In other news: Houston was destroyed by a massive earthquake, believed to be link to the simultaneous activation of several million vibrators.
No, that's Gods Wrath.
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Whew. It was horrible I tell you. It was like the buzzing of a million giant bees, followed by squeals of satisfaction.

But seriously, you could walk into any adult video store here in Houston and see racks of dildos and vibrators. :?
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Damaramu wrote:Whew. It was horrible I tell you. It was like the buzzing of a million giant bees, followed by squeals of satisfaction.

But seriously, you could walk into any adult video store here in Houston and see racks of dildos and vibrators. :?
"Educational tools for demonstration purposes only"...at least until today. >_>
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Molyneux wrote:
Damaramu wrote:Whew. It was horrible I tell you. It was like the buzzing of a million giant bees, followed by squeals of satisfaction.

But seriously, you could walk into any adult video store here in Houston and see racks of dildos and vibrators. :?
"Educational tools for demonstration purposes only"...at least until today. >_>
Would the employees demonstrate them? :D
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Flagg wrote:No, that's Gods Wrath.
What? God attacked Houston with a Plague of Vibrators?!
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Gil Hamilton wrote:What? God attacked Houston with a Plague of Vibrators?!
They aren't "vibrators." They are "personal massagers."
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