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UK one of the least observant countries in Europe

Post by Dartzap » 2007-04-03 05:20am

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'One in 10' attends church weekly
One in 10 people in the UK attends church every week and one in seven goes once a month, according to research.
Christian charity Tearfund's survey of 7,000 people puts the UK among Europe's four least observant countries.

Two-thirds of those polled had not been to church in the last year, except for baptisms, weddings or funerals - but 53% identified themselves as Christian.

Tearfund said nearly three million more people would attend regularly if given the "right invitation".

It said churches could do more to offer encouragement to potential worshippers.

The poll, conducted last year among people aged 16 and over, suggests that one in four UK adults attends church at least once a year.

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Tearfund said 53% of people identified themselves as Christian, compared with almost three-quarters who had in the last census in 2001.

But it said that its survey indicated that three million people who had stopped going to church, or who had never been in their lives, would consider attending "given the right invitation".

This could be a personal invite, the chance to accompany a relative or friend, or the offer of help during difficult personal circumstances, it said.

Tearfund's president, Elaine Storkey, told BBC Radio Five Live that a lot of people would be unsure what to expect if they did visit.

"The church for a lot of people is a very strange place these days. They're not familiar with what's going on inside the building, with the form of service, with the way people gather, with what they say, how they pray.

"So the first thing they have really got to wake up to is that there is this big cultural gap between churched and non-churched."

The Reverend Lynda Barley, head of research and statistics for the Church of England Archbishops' Council, said Britain was a nation "seeking identity".

"At first glance, the past has been left behind to wholeheartedly embrace individual choice and secular consumerism prominently among its modern-day gods," she said.

"But research is beginning to show that there is more, far more, going on out of apparent sight in everyday life in Britain today."

The report, Churchgoing in the UK, found that Northern Ireland was the most observant region, with 45% of people attending services every month.

Regular churchgoing was also three times higher among adults from black ethnic groups than white.

Yeah 53% make a country Christian. Out of 3000. Right. :lol: Ah well, as the National Trust buys all the churches, they can sell 'em for a profit :wink:
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Post by Hillary » 2007-04-03 05:49am

"Secular consumerism". What the fuck is this? I guess it must be different from the religious consumerism of, let's say, Easter or Christmas (the biggest consumer event by far).

I love the way the CoE always associate greed and lack of morals with secularism (actually, she probably meant atheism but what's in a name :roll: ) when the church itself invests in companies like BAE Systems.

Nice to see that Northern Ireland has the highest church attendance in the UK. It shows what a fantastically positive effect religion can have on a society. :wink:

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Post by Rye » 2007-04-03 05:49am

One of the local churches here has been an indian restaurant for 20 years. Much better use of the site. ;) Almost everyone I know is an atheist, I think the christian thing is just because it's drilled into you at school that you're a christian.
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Post by Mange » 2007-04-03 05:54am

It's even less here in Sweden. According to official statistics from 2003, less than 5 % of the population had attended church "more than five times in the last 12 month period".

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Post by Teleros » 2007-04-03 11:45am

Well I think we are technically a Christian nation, but would you believe in God if he was a wet as the Church of England makes him out to be? Ok stupid question on this board, but you get the idea.

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Post by Dartzap » 2007-04-03 11:54am

Teleros wrote:Well I think we are technically a Christian nation, but would you believe in God if he was a wet as the Church of England makes him out to be? Ok stupid question on this board, but you get the idea.
True.

Oh yes, having seen this article at college, I did snap poll of around fifty people (around 4 classes of 17-19 year olds) Between us, we know a grand total of fivereligious people.

Conclusive proof! it was a very representative of the overall population! /sarcasm!
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Post by Teebs » 2007-04-03 02:02pm

I think basically if you ask (most) people in the UK what religion they are they'll um and er and then say Christian, but in reality they just sort of vaguely believe there's probably a god out there but it doesn't really matter and just choose Christian because that's the background of their upbringing.

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Post by Admiral Valdemar » 2007-04-03 06:58pm

One of the churches in Lancaster was turned into a bar which was also quite tastefully done too. Last time I've ever been in a house of God, as it were.

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Post by Vendetta » 2007-04-03 07:15pm

We have one of those in Nottingham too. Quite a nice pub, albeit a franchise monstrosity (Pitcher and Piano).

But then I think Nottingham at one point had more pubs per head of population than anywhere else in England.

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Post by Darth Raptor » 2007-04-03 07:30pm

That's brilliant. The next time I'm accused of wanting to raze every church, temple and mosque in the country, I'll point out that they can make excellent taverns, restaraunts and museums.

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Post by NeoGoomba » 2007-04-03 07:32pm

Theres a club in Manhattan called Avalon that used to be a church. It was great fun ordering drinks from the pulpit, but was weird going to the coatcheck room and looking at a mural of Jesus as some plastered Asian kids are dry humping the hell out of each other underneath.
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Post by Zac Naloen » 2007-04-04 08:59am

I've actually for many years wanted to one day buy and convert a Church into a Home. Something about it appeals to me.

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Post by Dartzap » 2007-04-04 09:11am

Theres a church in a nearby town that's been converted into offices for a Legal firm: One Saves your soul, the other sells it :wink: And anouther one is up for sale next to the main bus station for the area.

Amusingly enough, the majority of the ones closing down and being sold are the modern ones, all the old gothic ones are the ones getting all the cash for the repairs they always need.
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Post by Wicked Pilot » 2007-04-05 02:26pm

What are the numerical trends for Islam though? And do you have an opinion on such?
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Post by salm » 2007-04-06 01:01pm

Yeah, the chruches have to sell their property because many people are leaving church and therefore don´t have to pay church taxes anymore. So the churches are unable to maintain the builidings which is really expensive and so they sell them. Here´s a picture of appartements in a former church:

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Post by salm » 2007-04-06 01:04pm

I´m still waiting for the first brothel in a church.

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Post by Wicked Pilot » 2007-04-06 01:22pm

salm wrote:I´m still waiting for the first brothel in a church.
Would it be missionary position only?




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Post by General Zod » 2007-04-06 01:24pm

salm wrote:I´m still waiting for the first brothel in a church.
Well, Denver's one step towards that. We've already got a goth night club that was made from a church called, appropriately, The Church. :D
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Post by Faram » 2007-04-08 05:37am

This is the parking lot outside my churtch today.

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Post by Mange » 2007-04-08 05:45am

I can't say that I'm surprised, Faram. You should see the number of cars (or rather the lack of them) parked outside the church down the road from me...

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Post by andrewgpaul » 2007-04-08 07:48am

Dartzap wrote:Theres a church in a nearby town that's been converted into offices for a Legal firm: One Saves your soul, the other sells it :wink: And anouther one is up for sale next to the main bus station for the area.

Amusingly enough, the majority of the ones closing down and being sold are the modern ones, all the old gothic ones are the ones getting all the cash for the repairs they always need.
That's because the modern buildings are horrible eyesores, while the huge gothic piles are at least impressive to look at.
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