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Jeremy Clarkson is a Fascist Cunt

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'Top Gear' host says strikers should be shot
Jeremy Clarkson says British public workers have 'gilt-edged' pensions

LONDON — British Prime Minister David Cameron has criticized comments made by "Top Gear" television show presenter Jeremy Clarkson after he said the country's striking public sector strikers be "shot in front of their families."

Clarkson, whose mocking personality helped make the Top Gear automobile show a popular broadcast around the world, was speaking on Wednesday as state workers like nurses, teachers and civil servants were staging a 24-hour strike against government plans to make them pay more and work longer for their pensions.

"I'd have them all shot," the 51-year-old said on the BBC's primetime "One Show."

"I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families," he added. "I mean how dare they go on strike when they have got these gilt-edged pensions that are going to be guaranteed while the rest of us have to work for a living?"

A BBC spokesman noted the One Show had apologized at the end of the show to viewers who may have been offended.

Cameron who is a friend of the presenter, said on the ITV's Good Morning program the comments were a "silly thing to say."

"I'm sure he didn't mean it," he added.

Unison, the public service trade union, said it would consider taking legal action against the presenter over his "appalling" comments.

Dave Prentis UNISON General Secretary said: "Clarkson's comments on the 'One Show' were totally outrageous, and they cannot be tolerated.

"We are seeking urgent legal advice about what further action we can take against him and the BBC, and whether or not his comments should be referred to the police.

"Whilst he is driving round in fast cars for a living, public sector workers are busy holding our society together -- they save others' lives on a daily basis, they care for the sick, the vulnerable, the elderly."

Unions estimated more than 2 million public sector workers in the UK went on strike over changes to their pensions on Wednesday, though polls showed not all Britons supported them.

Critics of the strike say state pensions compare very favorably with those in the private sector and that public workers should share the pain of belt-tightening measures.

The BBC declined to comment on Unison's statement.

Clarkson is known for his outspokenness. He aroused public anger over comments about former Prime Minister Gordon Brown's partial blindness and over an article in which he said the Welsh language should be abolished.

In February, he was at the center of a diplomatic row after making offensive remarks about Mexico, suggesting the country didn't have an Olympic team, "because anyone who can run jump or swim is already across the (U.S.) border."

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What a fuckhead. I'm sure his defenders will come out with "he was just joking", but somehow I doubt he was.
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Flagg I think you need to watch more Top Gear as this is par for the course for Clarkson
Wiki wrote:On his chat show, Clarkson, he caused upset to the Welsh by placing a 3D plastic map of Wales into a microwave oven and switching it on. He later defended this by saying, "I put Wales in there because Scotland wouldn't fit.
Watch any episode of Top Gear or his (still running? Since cancelled?) chat and he will call for the death of some group, typically Belgians. His intolerance is well know as is him abusing it for comedic effect.

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The OP's article wrote:"I mean how dare they go on strike when they have got these gilt-edged pensions that are going to be guaranteed while the rest of us have to work for a living?"
I think it's a valid point, it's just people are focusing on his extra comments than his actual point.
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I do watch Top Gear. This is a step too far, though. There's good (or even bad) natured ribbing, but calling for innocent men and women to be shot in front of their families for having the audacity to demand their lives not suck is something the Nazis would do. So he can eat my ass.
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Eternal_Freedom wrote:
The OP's article wrote:"I mean how dare they go on strike when they have got these gilt-edged pensions that are going to be guaranteed while the rest of us have to work for a living?"
I think it's a valid point, it's just people are focusing on his extra comments than his actual point.
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Flagg, you do know that Clarkson is a professional troll, right?
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There were in fact several calls of 'Jeremy Clarkson for prime minister' at my working lunch today. I think the sentiment in the City is that the public sector (and specifically public sector unions) are blackmailing the country to continue getting very generous pensions while doing almost nothing useful. This is of course somewhat ironic.
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He probably was just joking, really. But he's still a complete shit for saying it. Look up the clip on youtube: when he said this, the hosts of the show suddenly look really uncomfortable.

Ugh, if he'd just said the first bit 'I would shoot them all', then I'd write this off as typical Clarkson idiocy. But the fact that he elaborates ... what a complete fuckhead.

Bean, this isn't the same as that Wales thing.
1. On Clarkson's show, he's clearly there as an entertainer, so people are more willing to ut him some slack in that context. This was on a chat show, where they were discussing serious issues (relative to Top Gear)
2. Anti-Welsh stuff is pretty funny because there's no real venom behind it. Unlike these comments.
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So, how good or not ARE the public employee pensions that the public employees are striking to improve? Are they better than the average private sector Englishman can expect?

I think Clarkson's a git on purpose. He mocks America at every turn, but he fucking LOVED his F-15 ride, and oh yeah he spent his own money to buy a Ford GT. Maybe he had one gin&tonic too many before going on set.

Fascist? No, but that's typical over the top Flagg for you.
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Count Chocula wrote: Fascist? No, but that's typical over the top Flagg for you.
Yes, it's pretty fascist, Cunt Cockula. If the first image that comes into your head is jackbooted thugs executing innocent men and women in front of their children after hearing a comment, that's pretty much a fascist comment, retard.
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Starglider wrote:There were in fact several calls of 'Jeremy Clarkson for prime minister' at my working lunch today.
Because of the comment or because of the frantic hyperventilating from the unions that followed?
Flagg wrote:If the first image that comes into your head is jackbooted thugs executing innocent men and women in front of their children after hearing a comment, that's pretty much a fascist comment
Agreed. This bears no resemblance whatsoever to the image an overweight, middle-aged TV presenter taking the piss for the umpteenth time.
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Over the top again, Flagg! Woohoo. Go for the trifecta. If you believe that Clarkson is a fascist based on this foofraw, go read a history book. You're as retarded as your avatar.
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Captain Seafort wrote:
Starglider wrote:There were in fact several calls of 'Jeremy Clarkson for prime minister' at my working lunch today.
Because of the comment or because of the frantic hyperventilating from the unions that followed?
Flagg wrote:If the first image that comes into your head is jackbooted thugs executing innocent men and women in front of their children after hearing a comment, that's pretty much a fascist comment
Agreed. This bears no resemblance whatsoever to the image an overweight, middle-aged TV presenter taking the piss for the umpteenth time.

Who cares if he's "taking the piss"? The guy is himself a public employee, though considering this comment maybe the BBC should fire his ass. In front of his family.
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Flagg wrote:Who cares if he's "taking the piss"?
Everyone with some semblance of a working brain
The guy is himself a public employee, though considering this comment maybe the BBC should fire his ass.
Why should he be fired for doing what he was employed to do?
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Yeah well Clarkson's a "public employee" only because of England's retarded rules vice broadcasting. If he was publicly fired, in front of his family, he'd have a dozen more lucrative offers in his inbox before the segment finished airing. Imagine how much he could enliven NASCAR as a commentator! :D
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Captain Seafort wrote:
Flagg wrote:Who cares if he's "taking the piss"?
Everyone with some semblance of a working brain
So if I used a pejorative term for a homosexual towards you right now in jest it would be ok? If I advocated that you be shot in front of your family for disagreeing with me it would be ok? You're an idiot.
The guy is himself a public employee, though considering this comment maybe the BBC should fire his ass.
Why should he be fired for doing what he was employed to do?
He was hired to advocate shooting innocents in front of their families? Really? Is that in his contract?
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Clarkson's career appears to be invincible. The bigoted old fart's weathered too many storms for my liking, at his best he's quite a funny guy, but at his worst (and he's often at his worst) he is one cataclysmic wanker that makes my blood boil.
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Count Chocula wrote:Yeah well Clarkson's a "public employee" only because of England's retarded rules vice broadcasting. If he was publicly fired, in front of his family, he'd have a dozen more lucrative offers in his inbox before the segment finished airing. Imagine how much he could enliven NASCAR as a commentator! :D

NASCAR is where he belongs, right with the rest of the stupid people.
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Flagg wrote:He was hired to advocate shooting innocents in front of their families? Really? Is that in his contract?
Do you really believe that Jeremy Clarkson actually would shoot/order the shooting of striking workers? I mean seriously? Yes he's an obnoxious (yet often amusing) douche. But taking his comments in the literal sense makes you look like a retard.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:
Flagg wrote:He was hired to advocate shooting innocents in front of their families? Really? Is that in his contract?
Do you really believe that Jeremy Clarkson actually would shoot/order the shooting of striking workers? I mean seriously? Yes he's an obnoxious (yet often amusing) douche. But taking his comments in the literal sense makes you look like a retard.

He's advocating it. To the point where the English PM has to respond to his comments.
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Flagg wrote:He's advocating it. To the point where the English PM has to respond to his comments.
1) England doesn't have a Prime Minster.

2) If I had a quid for every time a senior politician commented on an irrelevancy I'd be a rich bloke.

3) The only reason it even got to Cameron was because of the frantic hyperventilating from the unions.
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So Clarkson has now apologized. He was just kidding. Funny joke, douchebag.
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Count Chocula wrote:So, how good or not ARE the public employee pensions that the public employees are striking to improve? Are they better than the average private sector Englishman can expect?
If so, why? Is it that their pensions have gotten better? Or that what used to be traditional pensions have been effectively abolished in the private sector?

On balance, was that a good change? Consider, Chocula, that the loss of pensions in the private sector means increased reliance on welfare benefits for elderly people who want to avoid starving or dying of disease. That puts the burden of keeping them alive squarely on the taxpayer's shoulders, when before it was on their employer's shoulders.

Should we be fighting for less pensions in the public sector, when the pensions and other benefits are the traditional way of compensating public employees for the fact that they get paid less and have less flexibility in their employment? Or should we be fighting to restore pensions in the private sector?
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You're shifting the goalposts, Simon. England's economy is in shit shape, relatively speaking, like the rest of the Western economies. Public sector employees can, by and large, count on being employed continuously by a government agency for 10, 20 or 30 years. Is what they get out of it NOW better than the pension (and, for the sake of argument, the English equivalent of Social Security) that non-governmental workers receive? If they have to work longer or put in a little more under current proposals, are they STILL putting in less than their public sector contemporaries? Clarkson would not have gone off on his rant IMO if the answer to both of those is YES. And he's closer to it than I am.

I think that his professed ire was over the top, but I can't help thinking that there's a kernel of resentment in his head based on facts.
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Two completely content-free flames have been barreled. I don't want to hear "but he started it", I get that kind of stuff from my kids.

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