US Marines Pose With SS Flag In Afghanistan

[SCRawl]

Flagg's discussion with Gunhead has been split to here. If anyone wants to further that discussion, do it there, and leave this thread alone.

[madd0ct0r]

nobody here even knows, anymore then any American can describe the flag of pre 1975 South Vietnam.

That's actually pretty well known. Try again.

really? how many of the marines in that picture could describe it?
but I suppose theres enough vets and Viet Khieu still about.


ok. a different, potentially embarrassing symbol.

for UK: Red Hand of Ulster represents what?

for america: name this flag:

[TimothyC]

<Delete me, Wrong thread>

Edit: that said, to answer the question above, That's the flag of Panama.

[Alyeska]

<Delete me, Wrong thread>

Declined.

[madd0ct0r]

i concede. clearly most people general knowledge of symbols is better then mine.
i honestly didn't recognize the SS logo at the start of the thread, put it that way.

[KlavoHunter]

Like Wong said, military people put stuff up in their iconography that is "badass". Hell, there are some photos floating around of the Poles putting the mark of Khorne on their armored vehicles in Afghanistan.

Requesting pictures, please!

[KhorneFlakes]

Like Wong said, military people put stuff up in their iconography that is "badass". Hell, there are some photos floating around of the Poles putting the mark of Khorne on their armored vehicles in Afghanistan.

Requesting pictures, please!

I second that notion!

[Thanas]

The Swastika and SS runes may be the most hated and directly linked to the Nazi party, but if being responsible for "world shattering war" is your criteria, shouldn't we be opposed to even the WW1 style iconography still in use by the modern German armed forces, or even on a more local level, the iconography *of the United States Military* itself?

As neither was directly responsible for WWI you got no point. Nor did neither carry out a systematic campaign of extermination and mass gassing.

[Julhelm]

The SS uniform might work as a DRESS uniform, with a color change (white, to show that we're white hats?), but it will NOT work as a combat uniform. Black has an unfortunate tendency to be VERY visible when seen through night-vision goggles.

Actually I was thinking of the field uniforms. Even their camo looked snazzier than yours.

[AniThyng]

The Swastika and SS runes may be the most hated and directly linked to the Nazi party, but if being responsible for "world shattering war" is your criteria, shouldn't we be opposed to even the WW1 style iconography still in use by the modern German armed forces, or even on a more local level, the iconography *of the United States Military* itself?

As neither was directly responsible for WWI you got no point. Nor did neither carry out a systematic campaign of extermination and mass gassing.

Well, he specifically brought up world shattering war, not the holocaust. If the holocaust never happened, would we nazi Germany be held to the same level of contempt merely for being an aggressor in a world war? I understand ww1 is a much more complicated issue and Germany didn't start the war, so I'll take back that point and think about something else.

But yeah. American navy fighter aircraft from vf-111 sundowners have rising sun tail art and no one complains it's offensive so i do agree nazi iconography is in a class of its own.

[Lonestar]

I second that notion!

No.




(more seriously, If I only see the photos on a service-related messageboard, I don't like to pull them and put them elsewhere. Although nothing on the Internet is private, a certain degree of discretion is expected.)

[Mr. Coffee]

What actually pisses me off about this whole thing isn't the ignorant douchbaggery with associating themselves with one of the most abhorrent groups of assholes in the history of the human race. What yanks my chain here is these that to me every time they don their uniform they are a representative of my country and they're embarrassing the fuck out of me.

Fuckin' stay classy Marines...

[Darth Wong]

That's exactly it: it's not even a question of whether they're pro-Nazi or just trying to be edgy macho assholes. The real question is why they are not sufficiently repulsed by Nazism to avoid this kind of thing.

In other words, it's not enough to say "I'm not pro-Nazi". I'd like to know why someone is not strongly anti-Nazi.

[Mr. Coffee]

That's exactly it: it's not even a question of whether they're pro-Nazi or just trying to be edgy macho assholes. The real question is why they are not sufficiently repulsed by Nazism to avoid this kind of thing.

In other words, it's not enough to say "I'm not pro-Nazi". I'd like to know why someone is not strongly anti-Nazi.

Dude, forget repulsion for a minute and track in on what I said. These fuckers took an oath that to the best of my research DID NOT include acting like slackwit fratboys. They wear a uniform representing my country. and as such they should act in a manner bringing honor or at least good behavior on my land. Instead they act like fucking douchhammers. Worse, I've got to listen to fuckhead saying stupid shit like "At least don't film it". Tat right there speaks of such a lack of organizational integrity it fucking sickens me.

I am saddened as an American that such people wear uniforms representing my land. They represent my nation world wide and they act like this? I am ashamed of even having them aboard my country. The Few... the Proud.. What the fuck happened to that, eh?

[Baffalo]

I love how blindly the military reverence has become in this shithole of a country that blatant racism by its soldiers is desperately handwaved away by morons who just can't wrap their heads around the idea that alot of our soldiers are pieces of shit.

It's usually instilled in us at a young age that soldiers, police officers, fire fighters and EMTs are to be respected at all times because they're amazing people and they never ever do wrong. Usually this training begins around the same age we learn how to write our name and count to a hundred. Over time, exposure lets us see that asshole cop who eats too many donuts and busts the guys out back just because he forgot his smokes. Since many soldiers aren't stationed near enough that we see them all the time, we don't have that direct exposure that leads us to associate assholes = some guys in uniform.

Another thing that makes it strange to make the connection is that we don't have a culture of invading armies like some other places or threats big enough to be a major issue sitting right next door. Even with military thinkers drafting plans like War Plan Red during the early 20th century, even the planners didn't envision a war with Britain all that likely, and it would only be Canada that offered them a direct military threat over land. Considering the attitude towards Canada by some Americans, it's unlikely many saw Canada as ever being a real threat.

Even the Civil War helps bolster this, with the North considering the Army to be honorable while most southerners believing that the military is good because of the number of people who sign up from the area. Poorer areas are more likely to enlist for the benefits and pay more than anything else. Oh and Hollywood's love affair with war movies. Almost forgot that one. When was the last time you saw a movie that really played up the "asshole soldier" theme? It's hard to because the military helps pay for many of these movies, which offsets costs, by having soldiers in the movies. So Hollywood wants to keep the military happy and so makes them look good for the chance to get military gear for their movie.