Damnit! its Stuart!Isil`Zha wrote:
Stuwart: I can't believe you still have that quote in your sig. lol
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Damnit! its Stuart!Isil`Zha wrote:
Stuwart: I can't believe you still have that quote in your sig. lol
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Agreed. She's already had 8 years in office. AS PRESIDENT.
The only way I'd spend enough for a two-person bunker is if I was sharing it with a woman, so I'm afraid not.Stormbringer wrote:Mind if join you in the bunker?Darth Utsanomiko wrote:If Hillary "Black Panther Murder Cohort" Clinton became president, I'd start making down payments on a bunker in Wyoming.
Then can *I* join you?Darth Utsanomiko wrote:The only way I'd spend enough for a two-person bunker is if I was sharing it with a woman, so I'm afraid not.Stormbringer wrote:Mind if join you in the bunker?Darth Utsanomiko wrote:If Hillary "Black Panther Murder Cohort" Clinton became president, I'd start making down payments on a bunker in Wyoming.
Sounds like the start of a new porn fanfic....YES!!!Kelly Antilles wrote:Then can *I* join you?Darth Utsanomiko wrote:The only way I'd spend enough for a two-person bunker is if I was sharing it with a woman, so I'm afraid not.Stormbringer wrote: Mind if join you in the bunker?
Heh, sure! It'll be a quaint little place; running water, electric windmill, and all that. And if the USA goes totally under, it'll be a good staging point to start my plan for a Tank Militia(Untill then, the sex will be fantastic)Kelly Antilles wrote:Then can *I* join you?Darth Utsanomiko wrote:The only way I'd spend enough for a two-person bunker is if I was sharing it with a woman, so I'm afraid not.Stormbringer wrote: Mind if join you in the bunker?
Sure thing StuwartStuart Mackey wrote:Damnit! its Stuart!Isil`Zha wrote:
Stuwart: I can't believe you still have that quote in your sig. lolas to the sig, well I am too lazy to find another.
Which is, in a nutshell, why people disliked Hillary and still do -- her idea was that they were the President, and she damn well gave every impression of acting on that idea. From what I understand, she exercised a broad array of powers she simply had no legitimate authority to.Col. Crackpot wrote:my favorite hillaryism
"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president." -- Hillary Clinton commenting on the release of subpoenaed documents
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Which presidential powers did she exercise?Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Which is, in a nutshell, why people disliked Hillary and still do -- her idea was that they were the President, and she damn well gave every impression of acting on that idea. From what I understand, she exercised a broad array of powers she simply had no legitimate authority to.
She had WAY too much of a hand in the Clinton national health care plan for an unelected official.Durandal wrote:Which presidential powers did she exercise?Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Which is, in a nutshell, why people disliked Hillary and still do -- her idea was that they were the President, and she damn well gave every impression of acting on that idea. From what I understand, she exercised a broad array of powers she simply had no legitimate authority to.
Meaning what? That she had input on it? I don't see the president exercising his power to ask whomever he wishes for advice and input as advisers exercising presidential power.Durran Korr wrote:She had WAY too much of a hand in the Clinton national health care plan for an unelected official.Durandal wrote:Which presidential powers did she exercise?Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Which is, in a nutshell, why people disliked Hillary and still do -- her idea was that they were the President, and she damn well gave every impression of acting on that idea. From what I understand, she exercised a broad array of powers she simply had no legitimate authority to.
She headed up the task force dedicated to making the bill. She didn't make the bill very public, she appointed a stunningly partisan slate of members of the task force, and she didn't work nearly as closely with congressmen and senators as she should have (which REALLY pissed some of them off, especially Pat Moynihan). She was an unelected official, she wasn't even a government employee, and she was exercising a great deal of control over what would have been the biggest piece of legislation in American history had it passed, moreso than most Congressmen had.Durandal wrote:Meaning what? That she had input on it? I don't see the president exercising his power to ask whomever he wishes for advice and input as advisers exercising presidential power.Durran Korr wrote:She had WAY too much of a hand in the Clinton national health care plan for an unelected official.Durandal wrote: Which presidential powers did she exercise?
Even though I support the war and given reasons for my support, I don't think anyone really, truly spelled out the problems with the Bush administration quite like you have here. The entire post was full of good insight but these two quotations stuck with me.Darth Wong wrote:...when you look at the way Bush treats people, it becomes more understandable. He makes people FEAR America. They certainly fear him.
What we've learned from this is that even ...Saddam Hussein is more adept at international diplomacy than George Bush. And that's just fucking sad.
Let's face it; the Repub party wanted "revenge" after eight years of Clinton, and only a proper far-rightist could deliver that properly. John McCain, by being more of a centrist, would be a tacit admission that some of the liberal ideals were worthwhile-- like saying "we'll become more like Clinton". The idealogical mess that would have created might well have destroyed the Repub party.Tsyroc wrote:[
The "extreme" right didn't like him because he was too middle of the road. ... If they were smart they would have backed the more centrist choice from their own party, hoping to garuntee Gore's defeat...I don't know why the Republican party listen's so much to the extreme right. Why not make them vote for the "lesser of two evils"? It's not like they would have voted for Gore or Nader.