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Nazi fanboy serial killers on the run in Canada, military air craft called in.

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So yeah, this story has basically been dominating Canadian news for a week or so.

It started with a young couple being murdered, and a man's body being found with two youth missing. The cases were eventually connected, and it looks like the two young men went on a killing spree, and are now hiding out in the Canadian wilderness. Though its not discussed in this article, at least one of the suspects was apparently fond of Nazi regalia, and they would often play war games out in the woods, so probably militia/survivalist prepper types?

Naturally, they're blaming it on the video games. :wanker:

The government has now sent in a military aircraft to assist in the aerial search, though the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) are still leading the manhunt.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.5227846
The Canadian military has landed in Gillam, Man., with an aircraft to help join the search for two young homicide suspects in Northern Manitoba.

"Just another big shock to this community. To have the RCMP presence is one thing but military that's stepping it up another level," said Gillam Mayor Dwayne Forman.

The Department of National Defence confirmed that a Royal Canadian Air Force CC-130H Hercules aircraft from 435 Transport and Rescue Squadron in Winnipeg will assist with an aerial search.

The statement said an RCMP officer will be on board the aircraft to direct the search and said this remains an RCMP-led effort, with the Royal Canadian Air Force in a support role. The RCMP will determine the area for the air search.

A pilot on the Royal Canadian Air Force CC-130H Hercules aircraft from 435 Transport and Rescue Squadron in Winnipeg arrives in Gillam for the police hunt for B.C. homicide suspects Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky. (Gilbert Rowan/CBC)
RCMP officers have started going door-to-door at every home and building in the Gillam area. They're doing the same on the Fox Lake Cree Nation. Police are hoping this will help drum up new leads to help with the investigation.

Police are also searching large abandoned buildings like the Keewatinohk Converter Station Camp near Gillam, which has over 600 rooms.

Police started scouring the woods around Gillam, Man., and Fox Lake Cree Nation for Kam McLeod, 19, and Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, after a burnt-out vehicle driven by the pair was found near Fox Lake Monday.

Watch as RCMP conducted roadside checkstops outside Gillam, Man., heading into the weekend:

RCMP tactical officers have set up a roadblock and are checking every vehicle that goes in and out of Gillam, Man., as the search for for two homicide suspects continues.

The Gillam area is an isolated region of bog and bush with one access road.

Police have said Schmegelsky and McLeod may have changed their appearance to try to evade the intense search that includes officers from several jurisdictions searching on foot, with dogs and using drones.

The Port Alberni, B.C., men are suspects in the shooting deaths of a tourist couple in northern B.C. last week, and have been charged with second-degree murder of Leonard Dyck, a botany lecturer at the University of British Columbia.

The Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs said Saturday that it has requested help from the Bear Clan Patrol, a neighbourhood watch group based in Winnipeg.

A statement from the assembly said the group is co-ordinating teams to fly to First Nations communities including Fox Lake Cree Nation, York Factory First Nation, and War Lake First Nation.

"The patrol groups will provide a sense of security to our First Nations communities that are now facing a great deal of uncertainty. As we roll out this strategy, we ask that all community members continue to co-operate with the RCMP. If anyone spots these two young men, please contact the RCMP right away — do not put yourself at risk. Keep your doors locked and your kids close," Acting Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs Sheldon Kent said in the statement.

This is the first time in its history that the Bear Clan Patrol has travelled to remote First Nations to act as "ambassadors" in a hunt for fugitives. The patrol group, which was created to keep the peace and assist residents in inner-city communities in Winnipeg, has expanded its reach to the northern portion of the province to back up Manitoba Mounties as they begin canvassing the homes of Gillam residents.

"We're not quite sure what it's going to be like," said James Favel, executive director of Bear Clan Patrol. "We're going to go up there, and we're going to provide ambassador services … be present in the community," Favel said.

"It's just about being there for the communities. That's our main focus."

Mounties said on Saturday there have been no new sightings of the suspects and no information to indicate the men have fled the area, though RCMP remain open to the possibility.

Many residents remain on high alert for the two men. "I'm still keeping an eye as I'm driving around, I'm still looking in the bush line thinking in areas they could be hiding," Mayor Forman said.

But not everyone is convinced they're still around Gillam.

"I think it's still a very mixed emotions between different people ... I still feel that it's a high possibility that they're in the area," Forman said.

On Friday, the RCMP said someone may have inadvertently helped the men leave the area, but stressed there have been no confirmed sightings of the two since they were seen in the Gillam area on Monday. Police have said there have been no reports of local stolen vehicles since then.

The public across the country has been urged to keep a careful watch out for the pair.

Several officers were at Gillam's airport for the military's arrival Saturday. (Austin Grabish/CBC)
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Re: Nazi fanboy serial killers on the run in Canada, military air craft called in.

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Neo-Nazis? Huh, been following this on the BBC news site, and that's not been mentioned at all.
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Here ya go:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu ... mp-863932/
Social media accounts associated with two Canadian teenagers have been found to contain hints of far-right and white supremacist radicalization, with one of the teens posting photos posing with a Nazi armband.

Bryer Schmgelsky, 18, and Kam McLeod, 19, are wanted by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in connection with the murders of three people, including hiker couple Chynna Deese, 23, and Lucas Fowler, 24, who were found dead on the side of the Alaska Highway in a rural area of British Columbia on July 15. A third victim, a University of British Columbia botany lecturer identified as Leonard Dyck, 64, was found a few hundred miles away from Deese’s and Fowler’s bodies, about a mile away from a burning van belonging to Schmegelsky and McLeod.

Security camera images of Kam McLeod, 19, and Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, and a Toyota RAV4 SUV are placed on display before an Royal Canadian Mounted Police news conference in Surrey, British Columbia, on Tuesday, July 23, 2019. RCMP say two British Columbia teenagers who were first thought to be missing are now considered suspects in the deaths of three people in northern British Columbia. The bodies of Australian Lucas Fowler, his girlfriend Chynna Deese, of Charlotte, N.C., and an unidentified man were found a few kilometers from the teens' burned-out vehicle.

After their burning vehicle was found, police initially classified Schmegelsky and McLeod as missing persons, but announced that they were persons of interest in the investigation of the three murders after they were seen traveling through northern Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Authorities believe they are armed and dangerous, and have cautioned anyone who sees them not to approach them.

While a potential motive is still unclear, the Toronto Globe and Mail reports that the suspects were linked to an account called Illusive Gameing [sic], which has pages on YouTube and the gaming platforms Twitch and Steam. A profile photo for the Illusive Gameing account features the Reichsadler, the heraldic eagle used as a nationalist symbol for Hitler’s Third Reich.

A Steam user who communicated with Schmegelsky on the platform also told the Globe and Mail that Schmegelsky was obsessed with Hitler and the Third Reich, and that he ultimately stopped communicating with him for this reason. The Steam user, whose identity was not revealed by the Globe and Mail, shared images dating from fall 2018 of what appears to be a swastika armband and a knife with the message “blud und uhre,” German for blood and honor; another photo appears to show Schmegelsky wearing a gas mask, while yet another shows the young man wearing military fatigues and carrying a pellet rifle. Schmegelsky’s father Alan told Coast Mountain News that his son demonstrated a fascination with Nazi memorabilia when he saw some during a visit to an army surplus store a few months ago, though he denied that his son was obsessed with Nazism and said instead his son was a fan of Presidents Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump.

An extremely popular gaming store and community platform, Steam has been criticized for adopting a fairly lax moderation policy, with some accusing the platform of turning a blind eye to hate speech and violent misogynist language on the platform. In late 2018, a Northern Virginia teen was accused of fatally shooting his girlfriend’s parents after they discovered pro-Nazi imagery, including an SS symbol and the quote “National socialism will prevail,” on his Steam profile. The story drew attention to Valve’s relatively lax policies, as did the platform hosting a game called Rape Day, in which players were able to stalk and rape women. (Steam pulled the game following intense media criticism.)

Steam did not reply to Rolling Stone’s requests for comment by press time.

Schmegelsky and McLeod were reportedly friends and high school classmates, who told their parents earlier this month they planned to travel to Whitehorse in the Yukon to look for work together. Their parents have not heard from them since, leading Schmegelsky’s father to speculate that they may be on a suicide mission.

“A normal child doesn’t travel across the country killing people,” he said. “I’m so sorry all of this had to happen. I’m sorry that I couldn’t rescue you.”
"Schemegelsky's father Alan told Coast Mountain News that his son demonstrated a fascination with Nazi memorabilia when he saw some during a visit to an army surplus store a few months ago, though he denied that his son was obsessed with Nazism and said instead his son was a fan of Presidents Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump."

To which my thought is, those things aren't mutually exclusive. In fact they seem to overlap a hell of a lot, for some reason.
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Wow, I don't normally wish ill on people but if ever there were two guys you might wish would fall off a cliff or get eaten by a bear....

I've been following this story a bit on the US news this past week and every time I encounter it things just seem to get worse.
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Looks like they're dead:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/rcmp-find ... -1.4540067
The Manitoba RCMP said two bodies have been found in the hunt for the B.C. murder suspects, believed to be those of Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod. The autopsies are scheduled to occur in the coming days.

This announcement follows the discovery of items directly linked to Schmegelsky and McLeod last Friday, after an exhaustive search in northern Manitoba has paralyzed the town of Gillam.

Manitoba RCMP have announced that they believe the bodies of Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod have been found.

The childhood friends from Port Alberni on Vancouver Island had evaded police for more than a week after they were identified as suspects in the shooting deaths of a 23-year-old Australian man and his 24-year-old girlfriend on a remote portion of a highway in northern B.C. last month.

The bodies of Lucas Fowler and Chynna Deese were discovered beside their van on the Alaska Highway on July 15. They were embarking on a three-week road trip through Canada to Alaska before they died.

Four days later, the body of 64-year-old Leonard Dyck, a professor at the University of British Columbia, was found at a highway pullout located approximately 470 kilometres southwest of where Fowler and Deese were killed. A burned-out camper truck belonging to Schmegelsky and McLeod was also discovered not far from Dyck’s body.

The young men were soon charged with second-degree murder in Dyck’s death and a Canada-wide warrant was issued for their arrest.

Police initially considered Schmegelsky and McLeod missing persons before they were connected with the dead tourists.

Schmegelsky and McLeod led investigators on a chase that saw them spotted in Saskatchewan and in northern Manitoba where another burned-out vehicle connected to them was found in the small town of Gillam on July 24.

The discovery of the SUV outside of Gillam, located 1,000 kilometres north of Winnipeg, sparked an intense manhunt involving RCMP and local police forces from across the country, as well as armoured vehicles, drones, K9 units, ATVs, boats, and several aircraft, both military and civilian.

Officers spent more than a week setting up vehicle checkpoints, knocking on doors, and scouring the dense wilderness beyond the town.

The search also expanded to a small Indigenous community of York Landing, Man., located approximately 200 kilometres southwest of Gillam, following a tip from a local patrol group who said they saw the suspects rummaging through a garbage dump on Sunday.

However, following an exhaustive search of the area, RCMP said they were unable to substantiate the reported sighting and they returned to Gillam.

A day later, RCMP announced they were scaling down their search efforts in the region after scouring 11,000 square kilometres of wilderness and canvassing more than 500 homes in the town.

The Canadian Armed Forces said the RCMP told them their assistance was “no longer required” and their aircraft and crew returned to base.

RCMP said a number of “tactical resources and specialized assets” would remain in the Gillam area following the reduction in officers. They also encouraged the public to keep an eye out for the two men and submit any tips to their local police force.

The RCMP Manitoba dive team came up empty after a search of the Nelson River following the discovery of a boat and personal items belonging to two men earlier this week.
I'm curious as to, if this is indeed them, they committed suicide, or simply died of exposure trying to play survivalist in the northern Manitoba wilderness.

I'd have preferred them being taken alive, but this is a preferable outcome to more murders or a shootout/stand-off with police.
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Couldn'tve happened to a nicer couple of guys.

If I ran this as an RPG scenario, I'd get dice thrown at my head. Seriously, what the actual self parodying fuzuck.

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A lot of bad shit can happen in the woods. Or the swamp. Or wherever they were hiding out. Could have been accidental, could have been the two of them got to fighting with each other, could have been a combination.
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Broomstick wrote: 2019-08-09 06:18pm A lot of bad shit can happen in the woods. Or the swamp. Or wherever they were hiding out. Could have been accidental, could have been the two of them got to fighting with each other, could have been a combination.
Yeah when I read about this earlier, one of the stories interviewed a wilderness expert who said that likelyhood that 2 would end up dead due to being in the wilderness unprepared was very high. Something as simple as the water being undrinkble without purification could have sealed their fate.
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The verdict appears to be suicide by gunfire:

https://cbc.ca/news/canada/british-colu ... -1.5243741
RCMP have confirmed the two bodies found in northern Manitoba last week are B.C. homicide suspects Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky, and the two died in what appears to be suicides by gunfire.

The bodies were found Wednesday, ending a 15-day cross-country search for the two men from Port Alberni, B.C.

Mounties had expressed confidence that the bodies belong to the men, but officers were not able to confirm the identities until autopsies were completed by the Manitoba medical examiner.

On Monday, B.C. RCMP said the autopsies suggest both McLeod and Schmegelsky were dead for several days before they were found, but the exact time of their deaths is not known.

B.C. RCMP spokesperson Dawn Roberts said the duo had been alive for a few days since they were last seen in July, and during the extensive search efforts near Gillam, Man.

Police said two firearms were found near the bodies. Forensic analysis is underway to confirm whether these weapons are connected with the northern B.C. homicide investigations.

The search for McLeod, 19, and Schmegelsky, who would have turned 19 on Aug. 4, covered 11,000 square kilometres in northern Manitoba alone — an area larger than Jamaica.

The two men are suspects in the deaths of a young couple and a botanist, killed within days of each other in northern B.C. last month. They had all been taking summer road trips.

UBC lecturer Leonard Dyck, 64, was found dead on a highway pullout on July 19. A burned-out camper truck believed to be driven by McLeod and Schmegelsky was found in the vicinity.

Australian Lucas Fowler, 23, and American Chynna Deese, 24, had been found dead days earlier next to Fowler's blue Chevy van at the side of the Alaska Highway — hundreds of kilometres from where Dyck would be found. The couple had been shot.

The bodies of tourists Chynna Deese and Lucas Fowler, left, were found near Liard Hot Springs, B.C., on July 15. University lecturer Leonard Dyck, right, was found dead four days later near Dease Lake, B.C. (New South Wales Police; University of British Columbia)
McLeod and Schmegelsky, who told their families they were going to Whitehorse in search of work, were initially believed to be missing after the camper truck was found. RCMP named them suspects in the three killings on July 23, warning the public they were armed and dangerous.

Gruelling search in northern Manitoba
A nationwide search for the fugitives ramped up after a Toyota RAV4, later confirmed to have belonged to Dyck, was found scorched near Fox Lake Cree Nation on July 22. RCMP believe the suspects had been driving the vehicle.

The gruelling search had Mounties and Canadian military trawling unforgiving Manitoba backcountry riddled with boggy swamps and clouds of insects. The hunt left many locals afraid to leave their homes, threw quiet communities into the international media spotlight and transfixed Canadians across the country.

Investigators received more than 1,000 tips during their search. RCMP announced they were scaling back the operation after nine days of unsuccessful efforts on July 31. But two days later, a damaged boat and several personal items linked to the fugitives were found along Manitoba's Nelson River, which flows between Gillam and Fox Lake.

The bodies were found near the Nelson River in northern Manitoba on Aug. 7. (Tyson Koschik/CBC)
That discovery led officers to the bodies. The remains were discovered eight kilometres northeast of where the RAV4 was found and one kilometre from where the personal items were located.

"We were describing it over the last couple of weeks as being some pretty dense bush and some pretty remarkable terrain — in my opinion that's almost an understatement," said Manaigre, who participated in police searches after the bodies were found.

"It was incredible. The steep hills, you've got a fast moving river with very little riverbank.… It's unimaginable how … you could traverse that type of area."

Manaigre said a motive for the B.C. killings is still unknown.

"That's going to be the biggest puzzle to solve in this investigation," he said. "And we hope we can get some answers on that question."

Dawn Roberts of the RCMP said investigators are working tirelessly on these unanswered questions.

"Our investigators are committed to determining as much of that as possible, and we're hopeful that looking at everything now ... respecting we may never have a full understanding with regards to motive."
If they were going to go that way, its a shame they didn't do it before they killed three innocent people, instead of after.
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