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"The US should emulate the Berlin Wall"

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Alaska GOP Senate nominee Joe Miller thinks the United States should use the former Soviet-controlled East Germany as an example in border security.

“East Germany was very, very able to reduce the flow,” Miller said at a town hall event Sunday, as recorded by an Anchorage-based blogger.

“Now, obviously, other things there were involved,” Miller added. “We have the capacity, as a great nation, obviously, to secure our border. If East Germany could, we could.”

Miller did not note that the purpose of the Berlin Wall and East German security was to keep large numbers of people from emigrating to the West.
The idiot does not know what he is talking about or just advocated for a shoot on sight order against people who look like illegal immigrants.
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I'm trying to understand how a group of people who worship the man who said "Tear down this wall" can turn around and say "hey, that wall was a pretty good idea!".
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Even further, how he can suddenly defend communists shooting down unarmed people who just wanted their freedom.
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Phantasee wrote:I'm trying to understand how a group of people who worship the man who said "Tear down this wall" can turn around and say "hey, that wall was a pretty good idea!".
That wall was about keeping people in East Germany. This proposed wall is about keeping people out of the US.
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At this rate, he might even through the election (though that is still very improbable at best).

Couldn't the teabaggers' astro-turfing sugar daddies run better background checks to weed out the truly stupid from the merely incompetent?
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Phantasee wrote:I'm trying to understand how a group of people who worship the man who said "Tear down this wall" can turn around and say "hey, that wall was a pretty good idea!".
OK, understand that Miller is a Republican and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when Kennedy was President they loathed his Democratic ass. In other words, Miller has never "worshiped" Kennedy, he likely has regarded him as an internal enemy for years. (Which is not to say ALL Republicans are that nuts, just that Miller seems to be one)
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Broomstick wrote:
Phantasee wrote:I'm trying to understand how a group of people who worship the man who said "Tear down this wall" can turn around and say "hey, that wall was a pretty good idea!".
OK, understand that Miller is a Republican and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when Kennedy was President they loathed his Democratic ass. In other words, Miller has never "worshiped" Kennedy, he likely has regarded him as an internal enemy for years. (Which is not to say ALL Republicans are that nuts, just that Miller seems to be one)
"Tear down this wall" was Reagan.

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Broomstick wrote:
Phantasee wrote:I'm trying to understand how a group of people who worship the man who said "Tear down this wall" can turn around and say "hey, that wall was a pretty good idea!".
OK, understand that Miller is a Republican and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when Kennedy was President they loathed his Democratic ass. In other words, Miller has never "worshiped" Kennedy, he likely has regarded him as an internal enemy for years. (Which is not to say ALL Republicans are that nuts, just that Miller seems to be one)
"Tear down this wall" was Reagan.
Which in no way invalidates my statement that many Republicans despite Kennedy (any Kennedy, really). Reagan got points on that one for being a "tough guy" and standing up to communism. It had nothing to do with liking Kennedy.

ETA: Oh, never mind - I misread the post. Somehow I got crossed up with Kennedy's "I'm a Berliner" thing and ... nevermind. I'll just go eat dinner now and get some rest. Damn lumberjacking shit wears out my mind as well as my body.
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Broomstick wrote: Damn lumberjacking shit wears out my mind as well as my body.
That's what you're doing now?
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Glocksman wrote:
Broomstick wrote: Damn lumberjacking shit wears out my mind as well as my body.
That's what you're doing now?
I have a standing agreement to clear a patch of scrub on days I am not otherwise employed. It's about 2/3 done now, but I keep forgetting how much it sucks out of me.
I encourage you yet again to apply for both supervisiory and/or union associate positions at the Indiana TJX warehouses (Evansville, Brownburg, and South Bend). The pay may not be much, but after my recent seizure which would have resulted in a $12k+ bill absent my health insurance, I think it's worth the sacrifice.
As it is, the State of Indiana is subsidizing the health insurance for my family, so (for 2011 at least) that's not a worry. I have been applying, but apparently can not get myself noticed amidst the din of everyone else applying. If you can help, let me know.

Anyhow, after a refreshing night's sleep, back to the topic:
I'm trying to understand how a group of people who worship the man who said "Tear down this wall" can turn around and say "hey, that wall was a pretty good idea!".
Because it's easier to criticize others than it is to realize when one's own self is motivated by fear. That's what it is - fear of a Mexican invasion. A fear the US will become Mexican, that English will no longer be the most important language, and of course the fear that white males will no longer enjoy privileges over everyone else.
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If you're willing to work a 3 day/36 hour week (Saturday, Sunday and Monday 4pm-4:30am) shift, apply for 'B' Shift at the Evansville DC, as the company is having trouble staffing the weekend shift despite Indiana's 10%+ unemployment rate and the local Whirlpool plant closing down in order to move to Mexico.

Like I said, the pay sucks for non management positions, but our benefits aren't all that bad at all.
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