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Re: Liberal lies in textbooks [FOXNEWS, suprise.]

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Caution: Following post written under influence of medication. Sanity, logic, and coherence are not guaranteed.

Beck is a buffoon. He was a buffoon as a comedy talkshow host on the radio. He was demoted upwards because somehow it's important to represent The Right Wing. He consisted had horrific ratings on CNN, but because it's important to have A Right Winger, the deluded nutbar remained. This was the first sign nothing good would come of this.

His crying is.. Bizarre. As I've mentioned before, out of necessity I've learned to read faces consciously. His.. Never matches his crying. Hell, in his creepy 'We surround them' broadcast, it was especially bad. He'd hit lines which are obviously supposed to be tearjerkers, and then start sobbing over lines that weren't even close.
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SirNitram wrote:Caution: Following post written under influence of medication. Sanity, logic, and coherence are not guaranteed.

Beck is a buffoon. He was a buffoon as a comedy talkshow host on the radio. He was demoted upwards because somehow it's important to represent The Right Wing. He consisted had horrific ratings on CNN, but because it's important to have A Right Winger, the deluded nutbar remained. This was the first sign nothing good would come of this.

His crying is.. Bizarre. As I've mentioned before, out of necessity I've learned to read faces consciously. His.. Never matches his crying. Hell, in his creepy 'We surround them' broadcast, it was especially bad. He'd hit lines which are obviously supposed to be tearjerkers, and then start sobbing over lines that weren't even close.
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Re: Liberal lies in textbooks [FOXNEWS, suprise.]

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Illuminatus Primus wrote:
SirNitram wrote:Caution: Following post written under influence of medication. Sanity, logic, and coherence are not guaranteed.

Beck is a buffoon. He was a buffoon as a comedy talkshow host on the radio. He was demoted upwards because somehow it's important to represent The Right Wing. He consisted had horrific ratings on CNN, but because it's important to have A Right Winger, the deluded nutbar remained. This was the first sign nothing good would come of this.

His crying is.. Bizarre. As I've mentioned before, out of necessity I've learned to read faces consciously. His.. Never matches his crying. Hell, in his creepy 'We surround them' broadcast, it was especially bad. He'd hit lines which are obviously supposed to be tearjerkers, and then start sobbing over lines that weren't even close.
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I like how the segment ends with 'do you have examples of liberal lies in textbooks? Send the books to us'. Yeah, good idea! Its not like your kid might need to actually read the damn thing for his class work or that the book isn't your actual property, but rather the property of the school district.
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The Cindy Sheehan thing is particularly revealing. He considers it a "liberal lie" to devote textbook space to a true account of a real person who gained nationwide prominence, just because Glenn Beck doesn't happen to like that person. In other words, he demands that certain parts of history be censored from textbooks, and considers it a "liberal lie" that they are not.
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Darth Wong wrote:Is he necessarily boozing? It seems to me that his behaviour could be explained as simple childish frustration. He's like a toddler having a temper tantrum, alternating between whining, threatening, and crying. The weeping is strange because it's not true tears of anguish, but tears of frustration, like the kind that a two year old would produce while stamping his feet because he can't have more cotton candy.
Or it's an act. The same way Jimmy Swaggert and other TV preachers can turn on the tears at will to generate audience sympathy, with himself as the object. One of the oldest cons in the book.
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The Spartan wrote:I was at the bookstore on Friday and I spotted a book about this sort of thing. I knew it was going to be right wing horseshit as soon as I saw the word "Liberal" in the summary on the back.

Sure enough, that's exactly what it was. See, they worded every "Liberal lie" very carefully so that it was 1) not something I've ever heard a liberal say, save for maybe some fringe wingnuts and 2) it was, at best, a strawman of a liberal position, if not outright lie. The only ones that I remember off hand was "9/11 was a government conspiracy," and "It was Gorbachev and not Reagan that caused the collapse of the Soviet Union."
At the risk of beating a dead horse, I remembered one of the other ones. It claimed that it was a Liberal Lie(TM) that private industry could do a better job of space exploration than government.
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Guardsman Bass wrote:Keep in mind that Frank's argument may not be applicable to the greater working class. Working class voters have actually tended to stay democratic everywhere except in the South.

...It's a catchy argument, but as the study I linked to points out, it's not necessarily the truth.
I'm noticing that, and I think that's why he specifically chose Kansas-- it's history as a former pro-worker political movement generator, and it's current trend towards the Republicans. It's also his home state, so there'll be some bias there, and he said one of his reasons for choosing Kansas is because it has become a cutout that represents "American authenticity".

So Kansas, for many reasons, is actually a bit of an oddball being passed off as a microcosm of effects happening nationwide. Some of the observations are, I think, applicable in larger doses but a region-by-region look would have to be used rather than tidy bundles easily delineated by state.
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The Spartan wrote:
The Spartan wrote:I was at the bookstore on Friday and I spotted a book about this sort of thing. I knew it was going to be right wing horseshit as soon as I saw the word "Liberal" in the summary on the back.

Sure enough, that's exactly what it was. See, they worded every "Liberal lie" very carefully so that it was 1) not something I've ever heard a liberal say, save for maybe some fringe wingnuts and 2) it was, at best, a strawman of a liberal position, if not outright lie. The only ones that I remember off hand was "9/11 was a government conspiracy," and "It was Gorbachev and not Reagan that caused the collapse of the Soviet Union."
At the risk of beating a dead horse, I remembered one of the other ones. It claimed that it was a Liberal Lie(TM) that private industry could do a better job of space exploration than government.
I would think that it would be the opposite, that they would be claiming that it was a "Liberal Lie" that the government could do a better job than the corporations, given the American right-wing's long time fascination with deregulating as many government services as possible.

Edit: Just changed the first couple of words and minor spelling improvements.
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Kaiser Caesar wrote:I would think that it would be the opposite, that they would be claiming that it was a "Liberal Lie" that the government could do a better job than the corporations, given the American right-wing's long time fascination with deregulating as many government services as possible.
Whoops! You're right! I should read: "...that private industry couldn't do a better job of space exploration than government."
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The really hilarious part about all of this is that US history textbooks are, on the whole, big buckets of conservative whitewash. It's transparent how dishonest they are if you know anything about US history--which high school students don't, which may be the point. I'll give the authors enough benefit of the doubt to assume they aren't deliberately outright lying, but (to take one example), a textbook that has a section about the Creel Commission's propaganda campaign in WWI followed by a section on anti-German paranoia and violence and doesn't draw a connection between the two is far worse than any of these so-called "liberal lies" even if they actually were lies.
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