Q99 wrote:Except you weren't talking about raw total production capacity at all, you were very explicitly talking about their ability to learn and make SW tech to begin with, and this was highly obvious in my posts, your insistence on it taking 'decades' to catch up tech wise (and the Borg couldn't catch up in total production in decades without gaining vast amounts of new territory, and also mentioning technical knowledge from experts, so you were very clearly talking about tech level not raw production output). Are you trying to tell me you accidentally framed all your posts as about being the tech level and time it takes to learn the technology when you really meant total industrial output the whole time?
Did you not read my arguments and posts at all? About how once the Borg gain SW tech their key is to steal production capacity by Assimilation so they don't have to get into a straight production contest? New numbers or old, "The Borg use their existing facilities to try and out-produce the Empire" is a losing strategy, while "trying to take Empire worlds and ships so it's production becomes theirs" is the one I and everyone else have been debating for some time.
Or are you just trying to change what you were arguing about?
Whatever the case, you're a seriously bad debater.
Apparently I mistakenly assumed we were talking about the same thing. In your first couple posts you suggested the scenario that the Borg could covertly take some undefended worlds (like they did in the neutral zone) to gain Wars tech. Then "lay low" till they upgrade their fleet so they can go all out. All of my responses were related to either; the Borg would have a difficult time actually acquiring useful knowledge in the first place (most Wars ships have mechanics not engineers) with out provoking an Imperial response, or that they need to actually upgrade their entire infrastructure and logistics to produce and support Wars tech in their ships.
The second part of that is directly related to the massive industrial production disparity. It's not that they would need to match the Empire's production straight up but at least be competitive relative to their own fleet. That is where assimilating to steal the Empire's own production would then come into play. If that massive disparity doesn't exist they don't have to do nearly as much if any industrial and logistics upgrading of their own.
NecronLord wrote:Unsure. What is canon, and has been declared ex-cathedra by Pablo - now that he can do that - and put in reference books again, is the much smaller size of the DS2, not reflective of the numbers on SDN's main site.
The 160 and 900 km sizes are being considered an effects glich - for instance a 120 km death star is present in Rogue One, and WEG numbers are canon again.
Odd, the Rogue One visual guide has the Death Star listed as 160 km. Why would he switch the "official" numbers to ones that are objectively wrong?