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Kane Starkiller wrote:
Darkstar wrote:Meanwhile, we have argued since at least 2002 that the EU is not valid for the purpose of understanding the Star Wars universe of Lucas.
Emphasis mine.
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Lying seems to be his great talent in life. That and long-windedness. If it wasn't for the fact that politicians typically need a wife to be popular and successful, he'd be president of something.
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nightmare wrote:Lying seems to be his great talent in life. That and long-windedness. If it wasn't for the fact that politicians typically need a wife to be popular and successful, he'd be president of something.
Realistically, in order to be successful, you need a lot more than a propensity for dishonesty. RSA may think he writes brilliantly, but most people who read his shit quickly come to the conclusion that there's something seriously wrong with him. That does not suggest that he's got particularly good "people skills" (especially when added to his apparent inability to find a girlfriend).

The fact is, to put it bluntly, anyone who's very good with people should have no problem getting pussy.
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I thought he was too obsessed with this stuff to even try to pursue the opposite sex
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OmegaGuy wrote:I thought he was too obsessed with this stuff to even try to pursue the opposite sex
I've known guys who said that they were not pursuing women because they were not a priority. Barring the occasional (and extremely rare) case of genuine asexuality, these guys are just lying to you and to themselves. Women are not a "priority" for them because they have no idea how to approach them. I've known guys who were 40 years old and still didn't know how to talk to women. The 40-year old virgin isn't just a comedy movie; for a lot of guys out there, it's harsh reality.
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I think I have the patience to read through all that, but if someone could sum it up for me in five or less sentences I'd be very grateful.
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What I meant was that he's so hopelessly obsessed with the debate he puts it in front of everything else in his life (at least that's the impression I've gathered). Sort of like captain Ahab or something.
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Darth Wong wrote:
nightmare wrote:Lying seems to be his great talent in life. That and long-windedness. If it wasn't for the fact that politicians typically need a wife to be popular and successful, he'd be president of something.
Realistically, in order to be successful, you need a lot more than a propensity for dishonesty. RSA may think he writes brilliantly, but most people who read his shit quickly come to the conclusion that there's something seriously wrong with him. That does not suggest that he's got particularly good "people skills" (especially when added to his apparent inability to find a girlfriend).

The fact is, to put it bluntly, anyone who's very good with people should have no problem getting pussy.
Ah yes, certainly I wasn't serious. I mean, just imagining RSA in front of the cameras is a hilarious thought. Plus of course, writing brilliantly isn't exactly what I'd call it when >90% of your audience skip out of reading your text, half of them because of boredom, the other half due to perseverance of sanity. The last 10% are vs. people, with the last 0.1% being his fanclub...

I also came to the conclusion long ago that if RSA tells you Earth's sun is yellow, you better demand direct evidence and if possible double-check it personally. That's how bad he's spin-doctoring.
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OmegaGuy wrote:What I meant was that he's so hopelessly obsessed with the debate he puts it in front of everything else in his life (at least that's the impression I've gathered). Sort of like captain Ahab or something.
Yes, but why is he so obsessed with the debate? The obvious answer is that it's all he has.
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I thought it was because he was just nuts
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Darth Wong wrote:
OmegaGuy wrote:What I meant was that he's so hopelessly obsessed with the debate he puts it in front of everything else in his life (at least that's the impression I've gathered). Sort of like captain Ahab or something.
Yes, but why is he so obsessed with the debate? The obvious answer is that it's all he has.
I've said before, I actually felt I was going down this road (this was about late 2002) because I'd be sitting across from Rosie reading at a restaurant (our favorite pasttime) and scribbling notes about Star Wars tech for my web updates. She'd look over to me and say, "What are you doing...? (Of course, I wasn't a total loss; I took care of the pussy part before I had the the website).

Now I enjoy the debate by making my silly videos. Lots more fun, and garners a wider audience. Rosie still asks me what I'm doing, though!

The thing with RSA is, he feels he was "challenged", by a slap in the face with a white glove. He's said before that "we've" come to know he won't back down, and that he can be an stubborn SOB about it, to our chagrin. :lol:
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Lord Poe wrote:The thing with RSA is, he feels he was "challenged", by a slap in the face with a white glove. He's said before that "we've" come to know he won't back down, and that he can be an stubborn SOB about it, to our chagrin. :lol:
It's that absurd sense of his own importance which makes him so comical. He's like Ted Knight's character in Caddyshack.
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And of course no matter HOW we respond, it will be a victory for him. If we go debate on SFJ, its "proof" he and his band of cockgoblins are "getting to us" and proof that we're "afraid" no matter how badly his forces get their collective asses kicked. If we ignore them, "well, obviously they can't handle our arguments". Mockery? "Well, if they really could address my arguments, they wouldn't need to resort to such childish behavior."

At least the last option can be fun.
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Comment on Darkstar's Blog entry by an anonymous responder wrote:I was just searching for some random stuff when I found this page. I'm sorry, but this is the saddest thing I have ever seen. You take some silly little debate so seriously that you feel that you need to address some nonexistent constituents?

Get a life man.
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Anyone know what this is about:
Ilithi said...

If Star Trek: Cardinal does go into production and goes on the air as the next Trek series, it'll only be another nail in the coffin of the Pro-Wars side of the debate, because the technology and energy levels used will far surpass even the SW figures listed on SDN. The Empire is on the order of 80-100 years behind the Federation in firepower, and centuries behind in power generation, as of Nemesis. Tack on another 25 years for Cardinal's time setting, and they just can't compete against that, even if you don't consider the OTHER tech areas that the Empire trails the Federation in.
I haven't heard of a potential new series, has anyone else?

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There are really only two reactions one can have to this level of pathetic contemptibility: :roll: and :lol:
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Cpl Kendall wrote:Anyone know what this is about:
Ilithi said...

If Star Trek: Cardinal does go into production and goes on the air as the next Trek series, it'll only be another nail in the coffin of the Pro-Wars side of the debate, because the technology and energy levels used will far surpass even the SW figures listed on SDN. The Empire is on the order of 80-100 years behind the Federation in firepower, and centuries behind in power generation, as of Nemesis. Tack on another 25 years for Cardinal's time setting, and they just can't compete against that, even if you don't consider the OTHER tech areas that the Empire trails the Federation in.
I haven't heard of a potential new series, has anyone else?

The above quote is from Darkstars blog comments.

I just did a search on Star Trek: Cardinal. This is what I found:

http://www.freewebs.com/stcardinal/index.htm

http://www.trekunited.com/community/ind ... opic=13903

Essentially, it seems to be a Trekkie wank project. Some Trekkie decided that HE is going to save the Star Trek franchise by starting a collaborative internet project where a bunch of trekkies cobble together a pitch for a new 7 year series. What make's this wank is the fact that he talks about how this will be 'true' to star trek (or his personal vision of Star Trek), and the fact that it's basically a retread of DS9 (although he seems blissfully unaware of this fact) set on board a patrol ship named USS Cardinal instead of a space station. It even used the same major races (Ferrengi, Cardasians, & Klingons, with plans for a minor conflict that will expand into a 'grand story arc' with the USS Cardinal going semi-rogue and resolving the 'great war')

Ilithi & Darkstar are just showing their trektardness by believing this wank-job has a chance of even making it past the planning stages, much let getting picked up by Paramount, and by thinking that a 25 jump in the timeline is going to give the Feds an unbeatable tech advantage.

Lets face it, this is never going to get off the ground because its going to turn into a flame war between all the trekkies fighting over who's 'vision' of Star Trek is the right one (like any fight between fanatics -- think of different fundie sects fighting over interpretations of minor passages in the bible, it quickly becomes a fight about who is right).
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Jesus fucking a goat, that's retarded. It's like they took all the worst elements of all the Trek series, added the angst from neo-BSG and smashed them together.
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skies wrote:
Lets face it, this is never going to get off the ground because its going to turn into a flame war between all the trekkies fighting over who's 'vision' of Star Trek is the right one (like any fight between fanatics -- think of different fundie sects fighting over interpretations of minor passages in the bible, it quickly becomes a fight about who is right).
I figure it'll get shot down simply because it only appeals to the hardcore geeks and only a portion of them. For another Trek series to succeed it'll have to appeal to non-Trekkies.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:Jesus fucking a goat, that's retarded. It's like they took all the worst elements of all the Trek series, added the angst from neo-BSG and smashed them together.
I know, and the worst thing is that the web site is another SFJedi style love-fest. Everyone is praising this guy like he's the second coming of Roddenberry, and he obliges with self-serving comments like "I'm a great writer, but a lousy web designer", and dropping comments that NBC want's to see him to get to know him. Does he seriously think his pitch is even slightly different from DS9? Also, despite the original post from 2006, it seems to be HIS personal project, not a collaborative effort. He also seems to be maintaining the fantasy that this pitch is a shoe in for approval and pre-production. Probably deluding himself into thinking he's an insider, and the world just hasn't caught on to how brilliant he is yet.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:
skies wrote:
Lets face it, this is never going to get off the ground because its going to turn into a flame war between all the trekkies fighting over who's 'vision' of Star Trek is the right one (like any fight between fanatics -- think of different fundie sects fighting over interpretations of minor passages in the bible, it quickly becomes a fight about who is right).
I figure it'll get shot down simply because it only appeals to the hardcore geeks and only a portion of them. For another Trek series to succeed it'll have to appeal to non-Trekkies.
I disagree, I think it'll get shot down because this guy is probably a nobody who thinks he's got the inside track, whereas Paramount won't give him the time of day in the real world.
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skies wrote:
I disagree, I think it'll get shot down because this guy is probably a nobody who thinks he's got the inside track, whereas Paramount won't give him the time of day in the real world.
That too. I think it would take an exceptional script and pitch to get this made. At least RDM had the benefit of time on Trek before he managed to get neo-BSG off the ground, note that Richard Hatch didn't seem to have much luck.
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Yeah, I'm sure they're going to dump Abrams (who's last movie is gigantically profitable) for...whoever the fuck these guys are.
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- When faced with devastating facts from the EU regarding troop numbers far smaller than their pulled-from-the-air quadrillions, they attacked and made threats against the author, who now seems to rather enjoy slipping in additional jabs in her continuing EU writings. Nowadays, the author's numbers are ignored despite their repetition in the EU.
Uh... where exactly? What author? Which book? What page? Where's he pointing to? What repetition in the EU? Where's that? Anyone want to lend me a hand at this? What's he getting at? What's he talking about?

I'm naturally a little skeptical of everything I come across, even stuff I agree with or would like to imagine would be true, but not unreasonably so; I'll believe something if there's cold, hard, concrete evidence to support its cause and it seems logical. On the other hand none of his sources are cited, so I don't think I'm being unreasonable here.
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Thanatos wrote:Yeah, I'm sure they're going to dump Abrams (who's last movie is gigantically profitable) for...whoever the fuck these guys are.
Yeah, he's using an appearance at a Star Trek con in March and a scheduled pitch to the Sci-fi channel as 'progress' (why the Sci-fi channel and not Paramount, I don't know). My bet is that this will end up as yet another half-done collection of fanfics or you-tube videos. The more I look at this stuff, the more it looks like a mishmash of half-baked ideas and 'cleaver' gimmicks stolen from whatever's popular. And a small update, he has stated on his website that he doesn't get why people think this is a DS9 retread, even though it's the exact same plotline with the exact same races.
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