Hypermatter and the 'Omega Molecule'

Michael Garrity · Post by **Michael Garrity** » 2007-12-08 09:11pm

Whic of these has the greater energy density? In a certain episode of ST: VOY, CPT Janeway quotes that one omega molecule has more energy than a warp core

Mike Garrity

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-12-08 09:34pm

What was the O-M observed to actually DO?

mr friendly guy · Post by **mr friendly guy** » 2007-12-08 09:46pm

How can you figure this out without even knowing what the mass of said molecule is? At least you could guestimate the energy output of a UFP starship, assuming of course the dialogue is even correct.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-12-08 10:11pm

So what's the power of 'a' Warp core in this scenario and by how much is the Omega molecule superior to this?

Gullible Jones · Post by **Gullible Jones** » 2007-12-08 10:13pm

If it's actually a (reasonably) stable molecule in canon, I don't think there's any way it could be massive enough to contain that kind of energy. I would assume the molecule is some kind of hideously wanky nanotech construct that sucks in energy from a parallel universe, or something.

Morilore · Post by **Morilore** » 2007-12-08 10:39pm

Gullible Jones wrote:If it's actually a (reasonably) stable molecule in canon, I don't think there's any way it could be massive enough to contain that kind of energy. I would assume the molecule is some kind of hideously wanky nanotech construct that sucks in energy from a parallel universe, or something.

It's hideously unstable, and that's the whole point of that episode: it's dangerous to use because it's so difficult to hold on to. But it's also made-up subspace bullshit physics: in real life, if you're getting energy from a molecule it's because you are destroying that molecule and transforming its constituent atoms into more stable states, so there is no way "one molecule" can supply the power output of a warp core for more than a tiny fraction of a second. Also, its decomposition "destroys subspace" or some shit.

Gullible Jones · Post by **Gullible Jones** » 2007-12-09 01:43am

Ye gods. And it's a molecule? Please tell me it's at least made up of very exotic atoms in Trek canon...

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-12-09 06:34am

For what I know, it's defined only Omega PARTICLE, so it can be SMALLER than an atom...

Kane Starkiller · Post by **Kane Starkiller** » 2007-12-09 07:00am

Whatever it's energy density Omega molecule would be quite useful to the Empire. Using Omega bombs they could cripple every Trek power without a single engagement. Furthermore they could detonate the bomb around their own systems to preemptively neutralize any ST attack and various subspace weapons.

dragon · Post by **dragon** » 2007-12-09 08:01am

Maybe its something similar to the exotic particles they were getting when the SG Atlantis team were getting when they tried to create their own ZPM.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-12-09 11:17am

Ummm...yeah. Locking. This is akin to asking if an ISD can break the event horizon.