More Trektardism

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-09-16 12:13am

I know. I'm not even in the military and I know this basic stuff. Its clear that Jay has never been in the armed forces and only lies about it to try and make himself look more useful and learned.

Hell, you learn more about combat dynamics and the military by playing Full Spectrum Warrior than Jay has exhibited.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-09-16 12:29am

That's the hilarious thing about really bad bullshitters; they just don't know when to quit. It's not enough for them to make up a story about themselves; they have to make it larger-than-life. Every one of them is a scientist, a warrior, a lover, a genius. That's actually one of the most common early tip-offs, even before they start saying things that the real McCoy would never say.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-16 12:40am

Peptuck wrote:The man claims to have served in the military but doesn't understand the concept of a "clear field of fire" or the idea that disobeying a direct order from the ultimate authority in the Empire, who can kill you with a glance, is a bad thing.

Look at my "Jay's greatest hits" post. Jay has claimed in the past to have been in the first tank division to reach Baghdad in Gulf War 1.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-09-16 12:44am

Look at my "Jay's greatest hits" post. Jay has claimed in the past to have been in the first tank division to reach Baghdad in Gulf War 1.

Wait.

The first Gulf War? In '91?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-16 01:31am

Peptuck wrote:
Look at my "Jay's greatest hits" post. Jay has claimed in the past to have been in the first tank division to reach Baghdad in Gulf War 1.
Wait.

The first Gulf War? In '91?

Yes. And he is actually DEFENDING that claim with:

"No I said I was attached to the 1st Armored Division, get it right moron! And I notice how you have never proved me wrong, have you???? Coward."

Verily he is the master of the nitpick to evade the main point.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-09-16 01:57am

Do you have a link to the actual post where he said that?

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2007-09-16 03:06am

Maybe Jay was serving alongisde Virus-X in some super secret covert ops group that was part of the Strategic defense instatute.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2007-09-16 11:50am

Darth Wong wrote:That's the hilarious thing about really bad bullshitters; they just don't know when to quit. It's not enough for them to make up a story about themselves; they have to make it larger-than-life. Every one of them is a scientist, a warrior, a lover, a genius. That's actually one of the most common early tip-offs, even before they start saying things that the real McCoy would never say.

Don't you just love that shit? As I said before, I never thought I'd meet so many real-life ninjas, G-men, and Navy Seals on the internet!

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2007-09-16 12:51pm

Aren't all real Navu SEALs suppose to keep that fact that they are Navy SEALs a secret? Don't they when they show them on TV blur out their faces for just this reason?

Alien-Carrot · Post by **Alien-Carrot** » 2007-09-16 01:27pm

Having actually applied to the armed forces, and passed all entrance exams, (yes, theres entrance exams), i feel comfortable whan saying,

JAY?

ackbar had 20 some cap ships, a couple hundred fighters, and a few corvettes. the plan called for all the cap ships, fighters, corvettes, and whatnot to DISTRACT THE IMPERIAL FLEET while a few fighters flew into the deathstar and USED IT'S OWN REACTOR to blow it up from the inside.

All of this plan was centered around one critical factor. The shield.

When they realized the shield was still up, the wanted to pull out then, but decided to stay in case the shield fell sometime soon. Ackbar made a wise military decision based on assurances from one of his generals. (Lando)

When they realized the deathstar was operational, Ackbar again made a wise decision, and called for retreat. But, again from Lando< was told they would never get another chance to destroy the deathstar.

Any competent commander would realize that attacking an incomplete militay station whos shields could fall at any minute is better than waitin for the thing to be complete.

A decision was later made to close with the less dangerous target of the stardestroyers, so as to impede the firing line of the deathstar. And to destroy the largest and most dangerous of the stardestroyers first, as it could do the most damage to the rebel fleet.

Sisko, on the other hand, flew 1 damaged spaceship into a small corrider to engage a fleet of over 10000 enemy capital ships.

His plan.... Mabye the gods will save us.

Alien-Carrot · Post by **Alien-Carrot** » 2007-09-16 01:30pm

ghetto edit. Applied but never got in, criminal record.

Hey Jay, you like to make big claims about going to peoples houses and beating them up, come to my house.

I dish out the kind of beating that lands people I prison for 2 years, and I don't even use weapons.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2007-09-16 01:57pm

Isolder74 wrote:Aren't all real Navu SEALs suppose to keep that fact that they are Navy SEALs a secret? Don't they when they show them on TV blur out their faces for just this reason?

Not sure about the SEAL's but your point applies to the SAS. The guy that hosts Future Weapons on the Discovery Channel is supposed to be a former SEAL and they don't blur him out but they don't talk about any operations he may have been on.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-09-16 01:58pm

Alien-Carrot wrote:ghetto edit. Applied but never got in, criminal record.

Hey Jay, you like to make big claims about going to peoples houses and beating them up, come to my house.

I dish out the kind of beating that lands people I prison for 2 years, and I don't even use weapons.

Did the newbie just brag about how he beats people up?

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-09-16 02:09pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:Aren't all real Navu SEALs suppose to keep that fact that they are Navy SEALs a secret? Don't they when they show them on TV blur out their faces for just this reason?
Not sure about the SEAL's but your point applies to the SAS. The guy that hosts Future Weapons on the Discovery Channel is supposed to be a former SEAL and they don't blur him out but they don't talk about any operations he may have been on.

I think they differentiate between active and former SEALs, though I'm sure you're right about the operations.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-09-16 02:10pm

chitoryu12 wrote:
Alien-Carrot wrote:ghetto edit. Applied but never got in, criminal record.

Hey Jay, you like to make big claims about going to peoples houses and beating them up, come to my house.

I dish out the kind of beating that lands people I prison for 2 years, and I don't even use weapons.
Did the newbie just brag about how he beats people up?

I believe he just bragged about criminal activity, if so this means an autoban.

Master_Baerne · Post by **Master_Baerne** » 2007-09-16 02:16pm

General Schatten wrote:
chitoryu12 wrote:
Alien-Carrot wrote:ghetto edit. Applied but never got in, criminal record.

Hey Jay, you like to make big claims about going to peoples houses and beating them up, come to my house.

I dish out the kind of beating that lands people I prison for 2 years, and I don't even use weapons.
Did the newbie just brag about how he beats people up?
I believe[/b] he just bragged about criminal activity, if so this means an autoban.

I think he was joking. Maybe an ntellectual beating was what he meant.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-16 02:18pm

Peptuck wrote:Do you have a link to the actual post where he said that?

His boasts of military claims? Hell no, the thread was deleted long ago. Thats the problem with ST.com. A flame war breaks out, TOS violations occur, do the mods discipline the offending troll? Hell no. They just delete the thread. Why they think that will be an effective deterrent to trolling is beyond me.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-09-16 02:22pm

I think he was joking. Maybe an ntellectual beating was what he meant.

I don't know what kind of intellectual beating lands someone in prison for two years.

Master_Baerne · Post by **Master_Baerne** » 2007-09-16 02:36pm

chitoryu12 wrote:
I think he was joking. Maybe an ntellectual beating was what he meant.

I don't know what kind of intellectual beating lands someone in prison for two years.

A metaphor, perhaps? Or I could be totally wrong. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-09-16 02:42pm

Damn that Asimov shit is good for a laugh.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-09-16 02:49pm

Master_Baerne wrote:
chitoryu12 wrote:
I think he was joking. Maybe an ntellectual beating was what he meant.

I don't know what kind of intellectual beating lands someone in prison for two years.

A metaphor, perhaps? Or I could be totally wrong. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Hell of a metaphor, then.

Balrog · Post by **Balrog** » 2007-09-16 03:50pm

Darth Servo wrote:Why they think that will be an effective deterrent to trolling is beyond me.

They just don't give a damn; look at how many times Jay has been banned from ST.com, only to come back with a new name. Were the place run competently, a good quarter of the posters would be gone thanks to IP bans.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2007-09-16 04:47pm

General Schatten wrote:
Cpl Kendall wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:Aren't all real Navu SEALs suppose to keep that fact that they are Navy SEALs a secret? Don't they when they show them on TV blur out their faces for just this reason?
Not sure about the SEAL's but your point applies to the SAS. The guy that hosts Future Weapons on the Discovery Channel is supposed to be a former SEAL and they don't blur him out but they don't talk about any operations he may have been on.
I think they differentiate between active and former SEALs, though I'm sure you're right about the operations.

Yes I saw one on the military channel the other day and they did blur out the active SEALs.

Master_Baerne · Post by **Master_Baerne** » 2007-09-16 07:09pm

chitoryu12 wrote:
Master_Baerne wrote:
chitoryu12 wrote:

I don't know what kind of intellectual beating lands someone in prison for two years.

A metaphor, perhaps? Or I could be totally wrong. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Hell of a metaphor, then.

True. He either needs banning or an explanation of what is and is not funny.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2007-09-16 07:58pm

I am left with a conundrum. Parts of the above conversation appear to be backseat moderating. I want to helpfully point it out, but wouldn't doing so be backseat moderating as well? So I wonder if it's best to just shut-up and wait for the mods to show-up, or whether to press "Submit" and risk getting yelled at...