More Trektardism

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-23 04:13pm

I just read it. Man, that was awsome!

How do you think he will respond?

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » 2007-11-23 07:27pm

Zablorg wrote:Let's, he's mentioned inflation of Star Wars abilities, attempted to strawman "Going over there and having a loud debate" to mean "Invasion"

Since his circle of cockmonglers consists of 12 people, I suppose 5-10 people from this board suddenly calling his little buddy/prosthetic penis on his shit would look like an invasion.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-11-23 08:27pm

I actually think that he believes we restrain ourselves due to his constant accusations. In his mind, we would be a lot more aggressive all over the Internet if not for Valiant Darkstar, standing alone against the tide. Just knowing that this brave warrior is out there, swinging his dreaded Mace of Truth, keeps us hiding in our fortress, only venturing out for the occasional raid.

Seriously, I'm almost certain that this is how the whole situation looks in his mind. He must think that we sit in our Evil Warsie Conspiracy meetings and say things like "We should all go over to st.com ... but wait! Darkstar might accuse us of being online bullies! We'd better tread cautiously. Bide our time, wait for him to make a mistake ... *cackle*".

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2007-11-23 08:36pm

My head hurts...pk Warp strafing a planet to lauch a weapon to destroy the atmosphere. Troops beaming down with replicators to use for supplies. The fact that they did it in TOS yet not once in three SERIES of TNG did we ever see Warp straffing. Starships using inpoint attackls to takje out ground troops so that all you really need are security troopers. Beaming enemy troops away...

The bullshit is deep over there

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-11-23 08:40pm

Typhonis 1 wrote:My head hurts...pk Warp strafing a planet to lauch a weapon to destroy the atmosphere. Troops beaming down with replicators to use for supplies. The fact that they did it in TOS yet not once in three SERIES of TNG did we ever see Warp straffing. Starships using inpoint attackls to takje out ground troops so that all you really need are security troopers. Beaming enemy troops away...

The bullshit is deep over there

TOS "warp-strafing" is bullshit anyway. The fact that a ship approaches a ship prior to firing on it does not mean it remains at warp while firing. A common tactic is to warp toward a slower enemy, drop out of warp, fire, and then warp away. Also, if two ships are both travelling at warp in the same direction, it's not "warp-strafing" when one of them fires at the other.

If you let the average Trektard "analyze" real-life military equipment, he would swiftly come to the conclusion that modern fighter planes can "supersonic-strafe" ground targets. After all, they can fly toward targets at supersonic speeds, and they have guns!

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-23 08:50pm

What is it about Trek that causes so many brain-dead people to flock to it? Is it the funny theme music at the start?

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2007-11-23 08:56pm

This is warp strafing a planet to drop a weapon to destroy all life on it or to cause a star to explode. They obiousloy miss the part where they are trying to take it over.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-11-23 09:00pm

Zablorg wrote:What is it about Trek that causes so many brain-dead people to flock to it? Is it the funny theme music at the start?

It could be because people always flock to a picturesque utopia where everyone is happy and the government is always right, unless of course a famous starship captain disagrees, in which case the government will ignore the fact that he is violating their laws and decide to go for the "greater good" without thinking of the consequences.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-11-23 09:00pm

Zablorg wrote:What is it about Trek that causes so many brain-dead people to flock to it? Is it the funny theme music at the start?

Simple, it sounds smart. The sheer amount of technobabble sounds real, so people with minimal science education believe it is real because it sounds like the shit they don't understand.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-23 09:03pm

Fucking hilarious. After Point 45 gives detailed comparison of the two factions abilites, Dr Steve here responds in a most poetic and convincing fashion:

"LOL! Who cares."

He is really starting to piss me off.

Also, the chronic one can go fuck himself.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2007-11-23 09:20pm

Darth Wong wrote:I actually think that he believes we restrain ourselves due to his constant accusations. In his mind, we would be a lot more aggressive all over the Internet if not for Valiant Darkstar, standing alone against the tide. Just knowing that this brave warrior is out there, swinging his dreaded Mace of Truth, keeps us hiding in our fortress, only venturing out for the occasional raid.

Seriously, I'm almost certain that this is how the whole situation looks in his mind. He must think that we sit in our Evil Warsie Conspiracy meetings and say things like "We should all go over to st.com ... but wait! Darkstar might accuse us of being online bullies! We'd better tread cautiously. Bide our time, wait for him to make a mistake ... *cackle*".

I'm almost certain this is the case. Meanwhile, I'm bored shitless waiting for a video to render on my computer. I need something to do to pass the time!

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-11-23 09:25pm

Oh Jesus, I just pictured what an invasion of that place would look like.

fucking awesome

Anyways, its funny how it almost always ends the same way. After a thorough defeat and rebuttal of all of the Trekkies points, they always start saying shit like "who gives a shit anyways?" and "LOLs, what a loser you are, remembering all that tech manuals stuff LOLZ!"

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-23 09:28pm

Annoying thing is, the good doctor does not seem to want to admit that he has conceded, and is now attempting to forcefully ignore the fact by claiming I live in a basement.

Simmons! I want the material used in that wall of ignorance over there sampled and analyzed! It's the toughest stuff I've seen!

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-11-23 09:37pm

Zablorg wrote: Simmons! I want the material used in that wall of ignorance over there sampled and analyzed! It's the toughest stuff I've seen!

It seems that the Trektard wall of ignorance is far stronger than Xeelee construction material.

BTW, this Dr.SteveGojira guy, he's trying to come off all badass and "LOLZ Bring it onz!" but has he ever even posted any type of argument? ?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2007-11-23 09:43pm

BTW, someone was looking for "Bacta War" quotes. I have those and a few others here:

http://www.mrpoesmorgue.com/usvsd/pdd/pdd.html

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-23 09:52pm

Hey guys! Guess what? We won.

Hoorah.

Unfortunatly, the debate has now degenerated into whether we have lives or not.

Darwin · Post by **Darwin** » 2007-11-23 10:11pm

Zablorg wrote:Hey guys! Guess what? We won.

Hoorah.

Unfortunatly, the debate has now degenerated into whether we have lives or not.

This can honestly be asked by someone with almost 24,000 posts on a startrek message board?

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » 2007-11-23 11:13pm

TheChronicOne wrote:Like I said, WHY on Earth come to a Star Trek board when there are Star Wars boards???!??

I LOVE Star Wars, however, I HATE crying whiney babies that get bored and go to lengths to create discourse. (as you are doing)

It is clear, you, and your simpleton friends are here merely to 'start stuff'.

Grow up, move beyond, and gain a new life.

Whatever. They start this Star Trek vs. Star Wars thread on their own damn board, then wonder why people with interest in Wars descend upon them, and accusing them of 'starting stuff' when their asses are kicked.

And horrors! I created discourse!

One last impression of the Wacky World of Trektardism: By their logic, you can't love a newborn infant unless it can bench-press 300 lbs and invent the truly economic fusion engine.

Darwin · Post by **Darwin** » 2007-11-23 11:26pm

Darwin wrote:
This can honestly be asked by someone with almost 24,000 posts on a startrek message board?

*pokes at board* Just for fun, I decided to look a little deeper. it doesn't keep 'joined on' records, but it seems late 2004 is a cutoff date for much of the st.com forums. Going by that, drstevegojira would have to have posted there an average of 22 times a day, every day, for 3 years. Giving him the hugest benefit of the doubt of the oldest post I can find on the boards, that would be 10 posts a day, every day, since august of 2001. I think he lost any right to accuse someone of having 'no life' around post 15,000 or so.

Darwin · Post by **Darwin** » 2007-11-24 01:03am

TheChronicOne wrote:Like I said, WHY on Earth come to a Star Trek board when there are Star Wars boards???!??

I LOVE Star Wars, however, I HATE crying whiney babies that get bored and go to lengths to create discourse. (as you are doing)

It is clear, you, and your simpleton friends are here merely to 'start stuff'.

Grow up, move beyond, and gain a new life.

I point above tard at the very first post of the startrek dot com forum thread.

llemin01 wrote: On 5/28/07 history channel ran a show called "star wars tech" in it they tried to show all the tech that star wars could make in the real world. Well tthey couldn't make any of it work, but when they did the trek version of this show almost everything was possible or done already so this proves to me that trek wins the friendly compation between the two. What do all of you think.

Looks like an anti-Wars troll to me. Somehow Trek is better because it uses tech we can reproduce in the 20th century, and Wars uses tech we can't understand. That's pretty backwards. And it's us starting stuff. Right.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-11-24 02:29am

Zablorg wrote:Unfortunatly, the debate has now degenerated into whether we have lives or not.

You have to keep in mind that you're dealing with kids who probably didn't do that well at real-life school, which is why they arrive at such illogical conclusions. Think about it: if someone routinely arrives at bizarre, totally irrational conclusions and has such trouble seeing what's wrong with them, there's a pretty good chance that he performs similarly in school. It's not as if the ability to draw logical conclusions or tie multi-disciplinary knowledge together is only useful in sci-fi debates.

Once you realize that there's a good chance that you're dealing with academic underachievers, you can understand why they come after you with the "you have no life" attack. It's the same way they think of students who do better than them in real-life school.

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2007-11-24 08:12am

Had I not been busy at the time that TheChronicOne and DrSteveGogira entered the fray, I'd have certainly waded in, irrespective of how normally I never have a problem with any of them. First Shuttle, then those two guys. What really pisses me off is that all three of them post intelligent stuff normally, but you wouldn't know it judging by the way they posted in the vs thread, especially as not one of them contributed a damned thing. They behave like such assholes for some reason when in there

Makes me almost ashamed to be on the same board as them. The words 'fucking trektards' came to mind repeatedly

And spock is demonstrating this beautifully:

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warrio ... cranus.htm

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-11-24 11:17am

EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Had I not been busy at the time that TheChronicOne and DrSteveGogira entered the fray, I'd have certainly waded in, irrespective of how normally I never have a problem with any of them. First Shuttle, then those two guys. What really pisses me off is that all three of them post intelligent stuff normally, but you wouldn't know it judging by the way they posted in the vs thread, especially as not one of them contributed a damned thing. They behave like such assholes for some reason when in there

I keep hearing about these people who are "intelligent" when not discussing Trek and morons when discussing Trek, but I've never personally encountered one. What makes you think they're "intelligent" when discussing other matters? How do you determine how "intelligent" someone is? The fact that they hold the same political opinions as the majority of the population? That's no barometer of intelligence.

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2007-11-24 11:22am

Darth Wong wrote:
EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Had I not been busy at the time that TheChronicOne and DrSteveGogira entered the fray, I'd have certainly waded in, irrespective of how normally I never have a problem with any of them. First Shuttle, then those two guys. What really pisses me off is that all three of them post intelligent stuff normally, but you wouldn't know it judging by the way they posted in the vs thread, especially as not one of them contributed a damned thing. They behave like such assholes for some reason when in there
I keep hearing about these people who are "intelligent" when not discussing Trek and morons when discussing Trek, but I've never personally encountered one. What makes you think they're "intelligent" when discussing other matters? How do you determine how "intelligent" someone is? The fact that they hold the same political opinions as the majority of the population? That's no barometer of intelligence.

Perhaps I'm using the term wrongly, they simply seemed a lot more reasonable in other matters, but in the vs thread they just seemed to whine and bitch about it without actually contributing anything. That thread was the first time that I'd seen them spout such crap

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-11-24 11:29am

EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Perhaps I'm using the term wrongly, they simply seemed a lot more reasonable in other matters, but in the vs thread they just seemed to whine and bitch about it without actually contributing anything. That thread was the first time that I'd seen them spout such crap

This is exactly the problem; people judge how "reasonable" someone is by whether he sounds like everyone else. That's a measure of conformism, not intelligence.

Intelligence is learning ability. People who can do higher mathematics are intelligent, because they had to learn difficult abstract concepts in order to attain those skills (this is why the theoretical mathematicians are generally the smartest people in any given university). Conversely, people who can't figure out a certain logical connection even after having it explained to them several times are invariably morons.