Star Trek Nemesis Pool (No Spoilers Please!)

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How do you think it will be?

**** - Like TROK and TUC
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5%
***1/2
4
10%
***
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**1/2
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**
5
13%
*1/2
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5%
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1/2
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no stars - Crap like TFF
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31%
 
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Post by Wicked Pilot » 2002-12-09 10:36pm

We all know that Star Trek Nemesis is coming out very soon. That brings me to get your predictions as to wether is will be a good movie, or a shitty one. If you have read the script, seen bootlegs, etc, your reply is not welcome. I simply want to know if you think Paramont will give us a First Contact or a Final Frontier for Christmas.
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Post by Crossover_Maniac » 2002-12-09 10:38pm

I hope it's good. Trek has a consistant record of even-numbered films being good.
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Post by Stormbringer » 2002-12-09 10:38pm

I think it'll be easily as bad as Final Frontier or Insuerrection. The best of the TNG movies is only equal to The Voyage Home; fun and entertaining but nothing profound or especially memorable.
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Post by Crossover_Maniac » 2002-12-09 10:39pm

Although, I though ST:4 was just okay and the least of the even-numbered Trek movies.
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Post by Wicked Pilot » 2002-12-09 10:46pm

I would say that I might be at best on equal with First Contact. However, since it's involving the Romulans, and is suppost to be the last of the TNG movies, there is a lot of room to have something profound and/or inspiring. I doubt however that Paramount will have the balls to risk making something special. I don't think the TNG cast will end their run with a movie as great as The Undiscovered Country.
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Post by Darth Wong » 2002-12-09 11:30pm

The B&B-ification of Star Trek continues. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that this film will not suck monkey testicles.
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Post by TrailerParkJawa » 2002-12-09 11:50pm

Im gonna say 2 1/2 stars. The visual effects will be cool, but the story line will be the same old stuff of the tv episodes.

( natural materials will block transport, a warp core will breach, etc )

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Post by Shinova » 2002-12-09 11:54pm

B&B aren't writing or directing this one (I think), so it may turn out better.
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Post by neoolong » 2002-12-09 11:57pm

Shinova wrote:B&B aren't writing or directing this one (I think), so it may turn out better.
One of the B's has a hand in the story. Who knows how much that will affect its abundance or lack of suckitude.
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Post by Stormbringer » 2002-12-10 12:16am

Shinova wrote:B&B aren't writing or directing this one (I think), so it may turn out better.
True but they've systematically fucked over the trek-verse so it'd be hard to write something the equal of ST2 or ST6.
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Post by MirrorUniverseSpy1 » 2002-12-10 02:01am

I would say 2 and a half stars. I don't think the movie will be
setting any box office records. From the commercials I am guessing
that this movie will, fan reaction wise, come in at a notch below
First Contact, which will probably be the best of the TNG movies,
and as everybody knows, it would be most difficult to make
anything worse than Insurecction.

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Post by Sriad » 2002-12-10 02:30am

I think that, like the Star Wars prequals (is this safe to say here? Oh well...) it'll be good, but suffer in comparison to what it should have been.

I'd say ***. May be fun, may even be worth watching a couple times, but not likely to be an outstanding movie in the series. I'd love to be proven wrong, of course...

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Post by Lord Pounder » 2002-12-10 07:50am

Darth Wong wrote:The B&B-ification of Star Trek continues. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that this film will not suck monkey testicles.
Thats cruel and unusual punishment. yet strangley preferable to watchign this drivel. Even the "Exciting trailers" look lame.
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Post by Vympel » 2002-12-10 08:08am

I don't know, the Enterprise-E DOES fire its phasers everywhere to spot the cloaked ship instead of simply using treknobabble. That's one good thing.

However, the plot does not impress me.
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Post by Scorpius » 2002-12-10 02:36pm

***

I think if they're serious about this being the last TNG then they would've given the movie a last once-over before foisting it upon us.

If they can keep out the BLAH BLAH - [humanity's unique potential] BLAH BLAH [non-interference in crap we should be interfering in] BLAH BLAH [phase-decoupler trans-inducing warp-smear TREKNOBBABBLE] then it might be as entertaining (note that I didn't say GOOD) as First Contact.
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Post by FaxModem1 » 2002-12-10 02:57pm

I say ***1/2 stars, because I'm hopeful about this movie and that they got B&B locked in the Enterprise set. But how infected did the movie get by their touch?

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Post by Uraniun235 » 2002-12-10 08:27pm

I'd like to be an optimist and say that Nemesis could redeem the TNG movie franchise.

But to be frank, I have little reason to think that the TNG movies will ever amount to anything.

I also cannot see how one could regard First Contact as a 'good' Star Trek film, considering the plot is about as far away from Trek as you could get. (all action, and not even a pretense of thought!) Of course, if people think the mindless action of FC was the best TNG film work of all, I suppose that's saying something too.

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Post by Solid Snake » 2002-12-10 08:54pm

I'm trying to dl it again... hopefully its not SCOOBY FUCKING DOO again...
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Post by Solid Snake » 2002-12-10 09:16pm

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT!!! THE SON OF A BITCH CHANGED THE FILENAME TO SAY IT WAS NEMESIS!! ITS SCOOBY FUCKING DOO AGAIN!!!! S'diogn'ASTGHi'serhgj
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Post by Drewcifer » 2002-12-10 10:15pm

I suspect it will a good movie but crappy Star Trek, like much of the franchise has become. Even though TNG was lacking on several fronts, it was often still thought provoking, and for me, that is the heart of good SF. That, or blow some shit up. Both, all the better (see T2).
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Post by THEHOOLIGANJEDI » 2002-12-10 10:35pm

SolidSnake wrote:GOD FUCKING DAMN IT!!! THE SON OF A BITCH CHANGED THE FILENAME TO SAY IT WAS NEMESIS!! ITS SCOOBY FUCKING DOO AGAIN!!!! S'diogn'ASTGHi'serhgj
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Post by VF5SS » 2002-12-10 10:41pm

Uraniun235 wrote: I also cannot see how one could regard First Contact as a 'good' Star Trek film, considering the plot is about as far away from Trek as you could get. (all action, and not even a pretense of thought!) Of course, if people think the mindless action of FC was the best TNG film work of all, I suppose that's saying something too.
I hear ya, man. FC was just some B movie zombie hunt with the Star Trek logo slapped on it. New Trek has never had any semblance of a hard edge to it. Its sad to see it try.
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Post by Ghost Rider » 2002-12-10 10:54pm

This one look to be maybe a two star(it's supposed not to written by B&B...like that's any true consolation) but looks to be above Highlander 2 or Batman and Robin.

Still could be wrong and this one may make me think Insurrection was a work of art.
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Post by Alyeska » 2002-12-10 10:58pm

A movie doesn't have to have STUNNING plot to be good. Action movies can be quite fun to watch as well. Yes, First Contact was action orientated, but it was still a good movie.
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Post by VF5SS » 2002-12-10 11:08pm

Alyeska wrote:A movie doesn't have to have STUNNING plot to be good. Action movies can be quite fun to watch as well. Yes, First Contact was action orientated, but it was still a good movie.
The action wasn't that great either. A bunch of people in dress clothes running around with their plastic toys in hand shooting at slow moving zombies who don't even look that scary. Sure it had some cute moments and a few good scenes where Stewart emotes, but overall this movie was too cookie cutter.
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