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Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2005-01-13 04:25pm

JeanLucPicard wrote:Thankx!
As for the debate tournaments I have been in (which is something I can answer) I have been to the IL OPEN 2 years in a row, the Pepria OPEN once, multiple practice tournaments, and lots of after-tourney-parties at Portillos.

You don't seem to have learned all that much, I'm afraid to say.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2005-01-13 04:29pm

JeanLucPicard wrote:I don't want to get into a personal attack debate, but if I have to, I will not be abusive and make derogatory comments about who I am debating.

If you have to, you won't be abusive! WE'RE SHAKING!

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-01-13 04:57pm

Batman wrote:
JeanLucPicard wrote:Thankx!
As for the debate tournaments I have been in (which is something I can answer) I have been to the IL OPEN 2 years in a row, the Pepria OPEN once, multiple practice tournaments, and lots of after-tourney-parties at Portillos.
You don't seem to have learned all that much, I'm afraid to say.

Actually, from what I've seen, he's learned enough to make a great politician.

JeanLucPicard · Post by **JeanLucPicard** » 2005-01-13 05:04pm

Batman wrote:
JeanLucPicard wrote:Thankx!
As for the debate tournaments I have been in (which is something I can answer) I have been to the IL OPEN 2 years in a row, the Pepria OPEN once, multiple practice tournaments, and lots of after-tourney-parties at Portillos.
You don't seem to have learned all that much, I'm afraid to say.

What do you mean? I just answered his question?

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2005-01-13 05:09pm

Go away "Captain Picard". Why the hell don't we get Luke Skywalker or Palpatine, why do we always get the Picards and Worfs. Fuck.

Brian

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-13 05:11pm

brianeyci wrote:Go away "Captain Picard". Why the hell don't we get Luke Skywalker or Palpatine, why do we always get the Picards and Worfs. Fuck.

Brian

Now now, ease up Brian. Remember when you first got here? While Jean here certainly has some "making up" to do, I'm willing to give him a little slack.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-13 05:13pm

JeanLucPicard wrote:
Batman wrote:
JeanLucPicard wrote:Thankx!
As for the debate tournaments I have been in (which is something I can answer) I have been to the IL OPEN 2 years in a row, the Pepria OPEN once, multiple practice tournaments, and lots of after-tourney-parties at Portillos.
You don't seem to have learned all that much, I'm afraid to say.
What do you mean? I just answered his question?

He means that despite your claims of debating skills and experience, you're not really acting like one who has that.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2005-01-13 05:13pm

Yeah but I didn't claim to be a F-22 pilot. He knowingly lied, that's horrible, why would he do that other than to get attention.

Brian

JeanLucPicard · Post by **JeanLucPicard** » 2005-01-13 05:15pm

Robert Walper wrote:
JeanLucPicard wrote:
Batman wrote: You don't seem to have learned all that much, I'm afraid to say.
What do you mean? I just answered his question?
He means that despite your claims of debating skills and experience, you're not really acting like one who has that.

ahhh....i see....*makes a mental note*

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-13 05:19pm

brianeyci wrote:Yeah but I didn't claim to be a F-22 pilot. He knowingly lied, that's horrible, why would he do that other than to get attention.

Brian

True. I'm giving him a second chance, but even with me the rope is pretty short. I'm hoping we can turn him. To a productive member of SDN I mean.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2005-01-13 05:24pm

You mean assimilate him.

Resistance is futile.

Brian

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-01-13 05:27pm

I seriously doubt anything good will come of this one, Robert.

Brian's right. He flat-out lied and tried to substantiate his arguments with bullshit claims of his experience. And like Howedar, I take that kind of thing rather personally.

Fuck him. Worthless lying sack of shit.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-13 05:30pm

Consider me overly optimistic I suppose. *nods* But yeah, I should let him redeem or hang himself on his own merits.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2005-01-13 05:45pm

Robert Walper wrote:Consider me overly optimistic I suppose. *nods* But yeah, I should let him redeem or hang himself on his own merits.

But how can he hang himself if you only gave him a short rope, Walper?

So people...the flying NCC1701: pretty cool huh?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-01-13 06:31pm

JeanLucPicard wrote:I have just one thing to say: Prove It.

I have not lied.

Just please quit the attacks and we can pretend this never happened and I will forget about it.

You fucking troll. You tried to bullshit your way through a debate and it backfired. You can stay the fuck out of the PST for all I care. Your on real thin ice.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2005-01-13 07:50pm

Alright, let's cut straight to the chase here.

JeanLucPicard, I see you fly F-22s, that's very impressive. You have my envy. I must ask, where did you get your commission, where did you attend UPT, IFF, and RTU, and what did you fly there? Do you currently fly out of Nellis or Tyndall?

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-01-13 08:42pm

Chardok wrote:Oi! You wont hear any arghuments from ME that the phantom was a gorgeous plane. In fact, everytime I try to draw a jet, it ends up a phantom. And what is this relaxed stability garbage you're barking on about?

I'm late to this particular party, but had to throw in my 2 pennies to praise the Phantom. I truly miss the days when both the Angels and T-Birds flew F-4's. Hornets are nimble, but I don't quite get the same feeling of awe from them that I got seeing the Angels light up the afterburners on a formation takeoff in F-4's.

Please resume your stoning, already in progress.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2005-01-14 01:52am

Ok "JeanLucPicard", since you claim to be in the air force, flying an F-22 while living in Illinois, I challenge you to PROVE it. I want to see a picture of you IN UNIFORM. I also want to see a picture of you standing next to your vehicle clearly showing your base sticker, and I also want to see a scan of your base ID. What is your real name, rank, and when you were last promoted? Where were you last stationed? Who is your commanding officer? And don't give me that "its classified" shit because anyone that has had relatives or friends in the military will know otherwise.

The very fact that you are outright LYING about serving in the military is an insult to those brave enough to actually sign up and serve abroad, and is grounds for every single one of them looking your pissy ass up and giving you the asskicking you so richly deserve.

Questor · Post by **Questor** » 2005-01-14 02:57am

From the sound of things, I am closer to flying the F-22 than he is, and the only thing I can claim is that once I met a F-117A pilot and got his autograph on a print of the plane in flight at the El Toro Air Show. (I have discussed the fact that NO part of the US armed services will take me before.)

Edit: Is this thread going to be moved to HoS? This guy needs more horsemanizing.

Edited on December 14, 2005 00:00 PST (Timing is a wonderful thing)

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-01-14 03:06am

Jason L. Miles wrote:From the sound of things, I am closer to flying the F-22 than he is, and the only thing I can claim is that once I met a F-117A pilot and got his autograph on a print of the plane in flight at the El Toro Air Show. (I have discussed the fact that NO part of the US armed services will take me before.)

Edit: Is this thread going to be moved to HoS? This guy needs more horsemanizing.

Edited on December 14, 2005 00:00 PST (Timing is a wonderful thing)

I think he's been vultured enough. Looking at his 'Christian Songs you Wrote' thread, it's pretty obvious that he's a kid trying to play in the grown-up section. If he keeps making an ass out of himself, he gets what he deserves, but otherwise, it's probably for the best to just leave it lie.

Questor · Post by **Questor** » 2005-01-14 03:16am

Petrosjko wrote:
Jason L. Miles wrote:From the sound of things, I am closer to flying the F-22 than he is, and the only thing I can claim is that once I met a F-117A pilot and got his autograph on a print of the plane in flight at the El Toro Air Show. (I have discussed the fact that NO part of the US armed services will take me before.)

Edit: Is this thread going to be moved to HoS? This guy needs more horsemanizing.

Edited on December 14, 2005 00:00 PST (Timing is a wonderful thing)
I think he's been vultured enough. Looking at his 'Christian Songs you Wrote' thread, it's pretty obvious that he's a kid trying to play in the grown-up section. If he keeps making an ass out of himself, he gets what he deserves, but otherwise, it's probably for the best to just leave it lie.

I hadn't gotten below this forum when I posted this. ( I read from the top down) I hadn't realized he had anything other than this one and the XWvsDF thread.

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-01-14 03:23am

Jason L. Miles wrote:I hadn't gotten below this forum when I posted this. ( I read from the top down) I hadn't realized he had anything other than this one and the XWvsDF thread.

No sweat, Jason. I wasn't intending to come across as berating you for your behavior or anything. I was pissed off enough I wrote a spoof F-22 song, but upon actually reading his lyrics, I'm thinking it's his parents that deserve the most thorough Horsemanizing imaginable. Yay for home schooling.

He's been an irritating little prick, but he'll either shape up, leave, or get used to getting his ass verbally kicked.

Sharpshooter · Post by **Sharpshooter** » 2005-01-14 03:49am

Crazedwraith wrote:But how can he hang himself if you only gave him a short rope, Walper?

That ain't a rope for hangin' by his hand: it's a rope for garoting, by ours.

That's actuaally pretty nifty, watching it fly around like that. Even if we've concluded that it's as aerodynamic as a rock, for the sake of watching it soar around like that, I'll gladly put away the deliberation made thus far.

By the way, gentlemen: do my eyes decieve me, or is that a VF-01 Valkyrie three spaces above the NCC-1701?

Questor · Post by **Questor** » 2005-01-14 04:02am

Petrosjko wrote:No sweat, Jason. I wasn't intending to come across as berating you for your behavior or anything.

I wrote what I did because I felt like an ass after I did a search on his name, as an admission of hasty response.

I was pissed off enough I wrote a spoof F-22 song, but upon actually reading his lyrics, I'm thinking it's his parents that deserve the most thorough Horsemanizing imaginable. Yay for home schooling.

Home schooling is hard, both on the child and on the parent. My parents tried it for a year with my youngest sister, it was not a very succesful experiment. Even the best teacher has blind spots for thier own children, and children almost invariably have some issues tied up with thier parents. Most home schoolered children that I have met end up behind even those who come out of public schools. (Of course, we have a good school system here, so my statement might be based on non-typical data.)

This guy mentioned that he is in High School and is being home schooled, which suggests to me that he will get even farther behind, especially in Math and Science.

He's been an irritating little prick, but he'll either shape up, leave, or get used to getting his ass verbally kicked.

Aside from his claim to be in the Air Force, I really don't have any issues with him, but he needed to be jumped on with both feet for that. I have very little tolerance for people who lie about that sort of thing. (Same goes for claiming to be a cop, fire-fighter, or EMT.)

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-01-14 04:14am

Jason L. Miles wrote:Home schooling is hard, both on the child and on the parent. My parents tried it for a year with my youngest sister, it was not a very succesful experiment. Even the best teacher has blind spots for thier own children, and children almost invariably have some issues tied up with thier parents. Most home schoolered children that I have met end up behind even those who come out of public schools. (Of course, we have a good school system here, so my statement might be based on non-typical data.)

This guy mentioned that he is in High School and is being home schooled, which suggests to me that he will get even farther behind, especially in Math and Science.

Not only that, but all the examples I've seen tend to end up with social difficulties because they don't learn how to deal with people outside of their own families. I think we're looking at a classic example here. He starts out with lies, proceeds to threats, then folds.

Aside from his claim to be in the Air Force, I really don't have any issues with him, but he needed to be jumped on with both feet for that. I have very little tolerance for people who lie about that sort of thing. (Same goes for claiming to be a cop, fire-fighter, or EMT.)

Yeah, that's what flared me up. But he also came across with threats against the board (ridiculous as they were) and otherwise made an ass out of himself. But the obvious negligence here is in his upbringing.

*shrugs*

It's really just sad, when you look at it. Another one destined for the RR board.