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bilateralrope wrote: ↑2018-06-27 12:51am Discovery is easy to deal with. It's a prequel, but has never been mentioned in any episode set after its time period. Which means there is some reason why nobody talks about it. As for why, that's up to the writers of the prequel to figure out. So just avoid any situation where the spore drive might be useful and put the rest of the responsibility for continuity on the Discovery writers.

The Romulan Republic wrote: ↑2018-06-27 05:00pmAgain, I feel that there's potential to adopt some stuff from Star Trek Online here. And incidentally, make the Romulan Republic canon.

tezunegari wrote: ↑2018-06-27 05:33pm The problem is that the Spore Drive is effectively God tech that solves nearly every problem related to travel.
It allows a ship to travel 90 Lightyears in 1.3 seconds.

There are no situations where it wouldn't be useful.
And the problem is not that it doesn't work... they made it work in Discovery.

It's possible that the writers could just declare the Spore Drive Project was classified on the same level as Omega considering that misuse could lead to the annihilation of all life in the galaxy if Spore-Culber is to be believed.

bilateralrope wrote: ↑2018-06-28 12:56am

The Romulan Republic wrote: ↑2018-06-27 05:00pmAgain, I feel that there's potential to adopt some stuff from Star Trek Online here. And incidentally, make the Romulan Republic canon.

I can see the Federation helping the Romulans form a stable government, and "Romulan Republic" is a good a name as any. Then the Federation would try to convince the Romulans to join up, just like their plan for Bajor. Chances are, the Romulans have made a lot of enemies. Enough that they might need the protection that comes with being Federation members.

Plus it brings reunification between Vulcans and Romulans closer.

tezunegari wrote: ↑2018-06-27 05:33pm

bilateralrope wrote: ↑2018-06-27 12:51am Discovery is easy to deal with. It's a prequel, but has never been mentioned in any episode set after its time period. Which means there is some reason why nobody talks about it. As for why, that's up to the writers of the prequel to figure out. So just avoid any situation where the spore drive might be useful and put the rest of the responsibility for continuity on the Discovery writers.

The problem is that the Spore Drive is effectively God tech that solves nearly every problem related to travel.
It allows a ship to travel 90 Lightyears in 1.3 seconds.

There are no situations where it wouldn't be useful.
And the problem is not that it doesn't work... they made it work in Discovery.

The problem is that the two possible solutions they had at the time, either enslaving a sentient lifeform or genetically augmenting a human without knowing the longterm consequences are both illegal.
Hell, they even give a possible, but at the time unfeasible solution: an emulated tardigrade brain.
And I think that only failed because they do not understand how the tardigrade navigates the Spore network and/or the computer technology is not powerful enough yet to do the emulating.

It's possible that the writers could just declare the Spore Drive Project was classified on the same level as Omega considering that misuse could lead to the annihilation of all life in the galaxy if Spore-Culber is to be believed.

The Romulan Republic wrote:

Elheru Aran wrote:One benefit of alien characters, the ones that used heavy makeup anyway, is that it's easy enough to hide aging. Michael Dorn still looks pretty good, and there's so much rubber on a Ferengi that you probably wouldn't see much change on Armin Shimerman, for example. Human-norm characters would be much harder to pull that off though. Like Data... I'd love to see Data, but Brent Spiner doesn't look much like he used to. Worse actually than Robert Picardo (in terms of general wear and tear, not 'man he looks terrible').

The Doctor is an easy enough explanation though-- 'oh I'm trying out this human thing of aging, I look dignified don't I? Is twenty-some years about right?" Insert gag of him aging/de-aging excessively.

Most characters, you can just say they've aged if you set it late enough after Nemesis/Voyager. Data is trickiest, yes.

DesertFly wrote: ↑2018-06-28 02:35pm Here is where I have to come in with my useless knowledge of Trek minutiae. In an episode of TNG (I had to look it up, but I believe it's "Inheritance", where he meets his mother), it's explained that Soong put an aging program into Data so that he would look older as time went on. Clearly that was written in specifically so the people making the show could explain away the fact that Brent Spiner ages. Of course, the original Data body is gone, so who knows if those "features" were included in B-4 (ugh).

Batman wrote: ↑2018-06-28 05:28pm Also, the silly skunk stripes were something Data did on purpose, not the result of his aging program. His housemaid asked Picard to tell him to undo it because it looked silly.

The Romulan Republic wrote: ↑2018-06-28 12:44pm The Federation trying to rebuild/integrate Romulan society would create a lot of potential for DS9-style spy plot-lines, difficult moral dilemmas, and commentary on current issues surrounding nation-building and immigrants/refugees. It could go very well, or very badly, depending on whether they have good writers who understand Trek's ideals and how to convey them without being ham-fisted about it, or clumsy hacks/grimdark fanboys.

Elheru Aran wrote: ↑2018-06-28 05:56pm Thinking about it: All Good Things, while plausible at the time, was a fantasy by Q, who was-- contrary to claims-- not omniscient. He may well not have known about Data's aging program.

So it may be that an external change in appearance *is* the aging program in action, and Data simply ages a little differently to Noonien Soong, who leaned towards 'puckish' more than 'put on weight'.

That said, I still don't know how well it could go over, but honestly, it's one of the least things to worry about here.