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OVEG: The Q And The Grey

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The Q And The Grey is the unnecessary sequel to Death Wish, which takes a strained concept past the breaking point, throws in lame sitcom jokes, and tops it off with the most ludicrous closing scene we've had in a long time. Plus, the world's lamest insult and Voyager does a joke about the size of Q's penis.

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Seeking all possible advice on romance, we see in the background Q has summoned The Todd.
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God, I remember this episode. Saw it in Germany, in fact, and dubbed. This failed to improve the situation.
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You'd think a Starfleet Captain who got her crew stranded in the ass-end of nowhere wouldn't be above a little slap-and-tickle with an omnipotent being if it meant getting 'em home safe. Seriously, it lasts an hour or so and then they're home - nobody even has to know.
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Kodiak wrote:You'd think a Starfleet Captain who got her crew stranded in the ass-end of nowhere wouldn't be above a little slap-and-tickle with an omnipotent being if it meant getting 'em home safe. Seriously, it lasts an hour or so and then they're home - nobody even has to know.
Well knowing Q, I'm not sure I'd put it past him to publicly taunt Janeway over it. :wink:
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Kodiak wrote:You'd think a Starfleet Captain who got her crew stranded in the ass-end of nowhere wouldn't be above a little slap-and-tickle with an omnipotent being if it meant getting 'em home safe.
The more time spent in the Delta Quadrant, the more time Janeway has to torture her crew with no Starfleet Admiral looking over her shoulder ;) .
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Wow. A competitor to Threshold. Glad I never say that- seriously, we already have Greek Style Gods- they could have used them instead of doing so much character derailment on the Qs.

Also, the really fucked up on the uniforms. Seriously, that was pathetic- not to mention there are a ton of other civil wars that could have been used.
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That's like having a crush on Ann Coulter and being afraid she'll run off with Michael Moore.
Goddamn that cracked me up :lol: . An awful episode, but really funny review :) .
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Fuck you Chuck, I had forgotten that episode, washed it from my mind...but the review was so fucking funny, I guess I have to forgive you :)
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Samuel wrote:Also, the really fucked up on the uniforms. Seriously, that was pathetic- not to mention there are a ton of other civil wars that could have been used.
Uniforms from the War of Independence would've worked better IMHO:

Civil war? Check.
Establishment vs freedom-fighters? Check.
Bunch of foreigners helping said freedom fighters? Check.
Freedom fighters winning? Check.
World better off as a result? Check.
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Teleros wrote:
Samuel wrote:Also, the really fucked up on the uniforms. Seriously, that was pathetic- not to mention there are a ton of other civil wars that could have been used.
Uniforms from the War of Independence would've worked better IMHO:

Civil war? Check.
Establishment vs freedom-fighters? Check.
Bunch of foreigners helping said freedom fighters? Check.
Freedom fighters winning? Check.
World better off as a result? Check.
Butbut... then they couldn't have used a lame Q pun for the title. It just isn't a Q episode without a Q pun. I wouldn't be surprised if that's precisely how much thought the writers put into it.

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^ Rev-Q-lution?
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Just remembering the Q-kissing-Janeway's-foot scene makes me nauseus.


Also, I think the actor playing Tom Paris (I forget his name; sue me.) was flinching from the black powder flash. :lol:
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Oh, and just to point it out: I find it ironic that the rebels are wearing blue when the rebels in the real Civil War wore grey. But then, we know why it's that way: because even if you pointed it out in the episode no one would tolerate the protagonists wearing the uniform of the Confederacy. Obviously being a midwesterner I have no love for the Confederacy, I just can't abide Hollywood cowardice when it comes to certain opinions.
It's actually an act of courage to have the GOOD GUYS wear Union uniforms in Hollywood, a place overflowing with Old South sympathizers, like shit from a busted toilet. Besides the damn obvious The Birth of a Nation, there's also The Outlaw Josey Wales, "Launchpad's Civil War" (an episode of DuckTales), Jonah Hex, and countless Jesse James flicks.
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I wonder how a human could have a child with a Q. I mean what would the child be, half-omnipotent? Could he ( let's assume a 'he' since the gender neutrality of Q is completely ruined by this episode ) appear and disappear? Travel through time? Or only the Q part of him would and the human wouldn't?

It seriously makes more sense for Janeway to have a baby with the holographic Doctor. That way she can say 'Computer, deactivate baby' when she doesn't want it around/
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saurc wrote:It seriously makes more sense for Janeway to have a baby with the holographic Doctor. That way she can say 'Computer, deactivate baby' when she doesn't want it around/
And it would appeal to her sadistic side to boot.
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The site was down for me as well.

Anyway, I do remember this episode. It was so awful that I think I blocked a lot of it out of my memory. There was something about Q wanting to have a baby with Janeway because the Q needed human DNA, and that's where my brain called it quits and bailed on the episode.
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Sidewinder wrote:It's actually an act of courage to have the GOOD GUYS wear Union uniforms in Hollywood, a place overflowing with Old South sympathizers, like shit from a busted toilet. Besides the damn obvious The Birth of a Nation, there's also The Outlaw Josey Wales, "Launchpad's Civil War" (an episode of DuckTales), Jonah Hex, and countless Jesse James flicks.
Hollywood, circa 1996 is full of Old South sympathizers because of:
  • a movie made 80 years prior
  • a comic book published in New York
  • DuckTales episode in which the (famously clumsy) hero is descended from a (clumsy) Union soldier and the villain-of-the-episode is descended from a Confederate soldier.
  • Some Jesse James movies
Errr...right.
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Chuck:

To compound the horribleness of the episode that shall not be named, did you notice how the Confederates were using Trapdoor Springfield rifles, a weapon that didn't come out until 1873, 8 years after the Civil War ended?
The fact that Tuvok was later shown using a Colt M-1860 Army revolver doesn't make up for this...

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Oy vey, that's an embarrassingly bad episode, but also very typical of that worthless show.

Good review, Sonnenburg. I love this quote: "This episode then breaks through the basement floor to find a new low..." Don't pull any punches. A rating of 3 is still a little high IMO though...
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Superman wrote:Oy vey, that's an embarrassingly bad episode, but also very typical of that worthless show.

Good review, Sonnenburg. I love this quote: "This episode then breaks through the basement floor to find a new low..." Don't pull any punches. A rating of 3 is still a little high IMO though...
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Samuel wrote:
Superman wrote:Oy vey, that's an embarrassingly bad episode, but also very typical of that worthless show.

Good review, Sonnenburg. I love this quote: "This episode then breaks through the basement floor to find a new low..." Don't pull any punches. A rating of 3 is still a little high IMO though...
He wants to only use positive numbers. They get worse.
Much, MUCH worse.
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