Should TNG be remastered like TOS was?

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Should TNG be remastered like TOS was?

Post by Dennis Toy » 2006-11-12 08:41pm

I think TNG should be remastered. I think some of the first 2 season episode would use a good fixing up. First "Arsenal of Freedom", those flying globes that stalked the TNG crew should be recreated in CG. Also when the ship is attacked. Show some battle damage. Angel one should be remastered also, use CGI to put life into the matte.

Also the audio could be remastered as well, the track could use some life
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Post by The Silence and I » 2006-11-12 09:00pm

If they ever want to go HD then they'll think about re mastering for sure. The special effects were created at VHS resolution--less than DVD and nothing next to HD--and they'll want to do something about that for any HD release. However I am not sure I want them to. I expect what we will get is something akin to the TOS re mastering: redo everything, but with every attempt made to change nothing. This is good for TOS -- the effects are often crap, but the style is good, and that has largely remained the same. This is bad for TNG -- the style is boring and completely fails to jive with either dialog or the previously established style of TOS. So if they do this re mastering then I expect to see higher resolution CGI starships firing better looking CGI weapons at the same scientifically inane, stylistically boring and otherwise retarded distance of 800 meters give or take, with nary a maneuver seen.

I'm just not sure I want that. Then again, I'm not sure it makes anything worse... so I guess I'm just not going to look forward with much excitement.
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Post by brianeyci » 2006-11-12 09:08pm

I know what you jerk off to Silence. You want them to fix all the SFX errors that make characters buffoons, and all the errors like the Warbird poking into the Enterprise like Tin Man :P.

Not going to happen sorry, I heard you can find pretty good Seven porn if you key it in to google try that for your hard ons.

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Post by The Silence and I » 2006-11-12 09:19pm

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Is it so much to ask, to want them to pay attention to the entire production? If the captain asks for maneuvers is it so wrong to expect the visual department to depict some goddamn maneuvers? et cetera and so forth...

As for Seven... never was my type :wink: :P
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Post by Stark » 2006-11-12 09:19pm

They could get the guys that do the nBSG CGi to do it. It'd make TNG fans explode with rage. :)

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Post by General Zod » 2006-11-12 10:22pm

Stark wrote:They could get the guys that do the nBSG CGi to do it. It'd make TNG fans explode with rage. :)
Why not go one step further and get Lucas Studios to do it? :o
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Post by Skylon » 2006-11-12 11:11pm

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Stark wrote:They could get the guys that do the nBSG CGi to do it. It'd make TNG fans explode with rage. :)
Why not go one step further and get Lucas Studios to do it? :o
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Didn't ILM do TNG's effects?
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Post by Old Plympto » 2006-11-12 11:26pm

Skylon wrote:Didn't ILM do TNG's effects?
IIRC they did a lot of the stock VFX footage for the first season (or maybe just the pilot). After that it was all in house.
Stark wrote:They could get the guys that do the nBSG CGi to do it. It'd make TNG fans explode with rage.
I think one of the FX supervisors of nBSG is Gary Hutzel, who was also a FX supervisor on TNG for years.

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Post by Uraniun235 » 2006-11-13 12:04am

ILM did the effects for Encounter at Farpoint.

I have my doubts about TNG making it to HD. Back then, for the in-house effects stuff (not the ILM stuff) they would transfer the film to videotape, and then do all the effects digitally. This is why so many of the effects have that weird look, like it really doesn't belong. It's also why on some of the earlier episodes there are some truly godawful bits of footage where they really pooched the film-tape transfer and you can tell just at DVD resolution.

If they wanted to do TNG in HD, they'd have to still have the original film they shot the footage on, and then they'd have to redo every effects shot.
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Post by SecondToDie » 2006-11-13 01:57pm

I don't think TNG should be remastered, but that's mostly because I don't really like it.

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Post by Spanky The Dolphin » 2006-11-13 02:02pm

I don't think it should, just because no matter what, it'll look like utter shit just because of how everything was filmed.
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Post by tim31 » 2006-11-17 12:53pm

Uraniun235 wrote:ILM did the effects for Encounter at Farpoint.
...and got credited at the end of every episode of TNG, regardless of whether that saucer seperation footage was used or not.

It may also be worth noting that Doug Drexler and Adam 'Mojo' Lebowitz, who work on nBSG, were Star Trek guys. I think RDM has called on quite a few people that worked on DS9.
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Post by Isolder74 » 2006-11-17 01:00pm

tim31 wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:ILM did the effects for Encounter at Farpoint.
...and got credited at the end of every episode of TNG, regardless of whether that saucer seperation footage was used or not.

It may also be worth noting that Doug Drexler and Adam 'Mojo' Lebowitz, who work on nBSG, were Star Trek guys. I think RDM has called on quite a few people that worked on DS9.
Probably because they built the model and did the opening sequence we see on every episode. The credits also credit the effects artists who did that particular episode as well.
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Post by Uraniun235 » 2006-11-17 01:35pm

Also, most of the footage from Encounter at Farpoint was re-used repeatedly (some of it very heavily) throughout most of the series.
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Post by Prometheus Unbound » 2017-07-25 07:02am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
2006-11-13 02:02pm
I don't think it should, just because no matter what, it'll look like utter shit just because of how everything was filmed.
WRONG.

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Re: Should TNG be remastered like TOS was?

Post by Crazedwraith » 2017-07-25 07:04am

Dude, 11 years later?
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Re: Should TNG be remastered like TOS was?

Post by Prometheus Unbound » 2017-07-25 07:07am

Crazedwraith wrote:
2017-07-25 07:04am
Dude, 11 years later?
I was looking for info on ILM stuff on the other thread - was googling around for original resolutions of TNG / DS9 and the 2nd result on Google was a thread from this forum saying it'd never be done.

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Re: Should TNG be remastered like TOS was?

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2017-07-30 01:22pm

They did remaster it in the end, the original footage was recorded on videotape which complicated things.
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Re: Should TNG be remastered like TOS was?

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