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I think they referred to the Big E being the Federation flagship on several occasions in TOS too but it's been eons since I saw that so I freely admit that I might be me confusing it with the later Trekverse.
Doesn't change the fact that giving one of the 12 most advanced starships the UFP has (as we're ALSO told in TOS) to a bunch of cadets for their training cruise moderately stupid.
Doesn't change the fact that giving one of the 12 most advanced starships the UFP has (as we're ALSO told in TOS) to a bunch of cadets for their training cruise moderately stupid.
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You're not the only one. The cast just looks... wrong to me. They look like a group of high schoolers hanging out in that first photo. I can't explain why exactly. Its just a gut feeling.Johonebesus wrote:So I'm the only one who isn't impressed? Kirk looks too young and cute. The bit about a fight between Kirk and Sulu sounds very worrying. Dark and gritty isn't always a move in the right direction, especially given Hollywood's tendency of late to offer us characters who never matured out of an adolescent mind set.
But I don't think it looks like they're going for "dark and gritty". That bridge looks more polished than Next Generation.
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Too young and especially it looks like he has NO extra fat around the mid-section! We demand a realistic looking hero! After all, where did all those Romulan Ales go?Johonebesus wrote:So I'm the only one who isn't impressed? Kirk looks too young and cute.
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None of them seem to be in the cadet uniforms shown in various sneak set images. They all seem to be in officer uniforms. Perhaps this is from the end of the film after they have come together as a crew?Batman wrote:I think they referred to the Big E being the Federation flagship on several occasions in TOS too but it's been eons since I saw that so I freely admit that I might be me confusing it with the later Trekverse.
Doesn't change the fact that giving one of the 12 most advanced starships the UFP has (as we're ALSO told in TOS) to a bunch of cadets for their training cruise moderately stupid.
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Well, that bridge looks damn awesome. It looks nothing like anything seen in Star Trek, but it looks awesome. Phaser bolts a little odd. Maybe they're 'phase cannons' or something?
My big issue with this is that Kirk looks about 15.
My big issue with this is that Kirk looks about 15.
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Lol weapons should clearly be designed with style in mind!Sidewinder wrote:I still like the design; gun turrets say, "You can have my ship when you tear it from my cold, dead fingers," instead of "Don't shoot! We have no weapons more dangerous than a frowning Klingon!" as Picard-era ships seem to say.
I'm curious about the movie now - it seems odd that they've kept the ship, but changed so many details (the entire style is different), and kept the cast and gone to great effort to put the old characters in this entirely new setting.
If only it didn't have a retarded time travel framework I might actually watch it, even. It amuses me that Kirk doesn't wear the full uniform; he's got the black undershirt everyone else is wearing but not his BRANCH JUMPER on.
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I feel like Nero looking like Shinzon may be very deliberate. The screenwriters seems to take a "canon is canon, like it or not" philosophy, so the first part will probably be a Nemesis sequel with Old Spock and Nero going to the past, and thus allowing the "reboot." Sort of like how T:SCC doesn't "retcon" T3 so much as time-travel it out of existence, explicitly.
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How the hell does he look 15? This is what someone who is 15 looks like:My big issue with this is that Kirk looks about 15.
Man, TV has really screwed up peoples idea of how old people should look.
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Hey, those color overshirts look like they're made out of the same fabric they use in high school gymnasiums for when it's time to play flag football!
Also, god damn. That bridge is eye-poppingly bright.
That said, I tend to prefer the more subdued lighting of the first two films' bridges. I think the best of all Trek bridges would combine the best elements of TMP and TWOK's bridges.
Also, god damn. That bridge is eye-poppingly bright.
I don't believe Probert was involved much in interiors - I believe that was Harold "Hal" Michelson. For example, Probert tells the story of the TMP recreation deck, wherein he notes that his suggestions on the placement and design of the rec deck were intruding on Hal's domain.Patrick Degan wrote:It was still basically the Andrew Probert design but sharper.
That said, I tend to prefer the more subdued lighting of the first two films' bridges. I think the best of all Trek bridges would combine the best elements of TMP and TWOK's bridges.
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Considering Abram's refusal to say if it's a reboot, reimaginging, sequal, prequel, retcon or anything in-between, I wouldn't fret too much about details like that. At the moment I'm approaching it like the new Batman, as another retelling of the story, and if Abrams thinks he can get a better movie out of having the young cast together on the Big E, that's fine by me.Batman wrote:Okay, maybe I'm missing something, but if this is, indeed, the bridge of the big E, and indeed, that black shirt (that never before seen black shirt) is a captain's shirt, how come Kirk is so incredibly young? As per established canon Kirk didn't get command of NCC-1701 until at worst a few years before the start of TOS. Am I supposed to believe what was allegedly the flagship of Starfleet was given to recruits for training purposes?
I'm hoping that's just a trick of the photo; the shot of the viewscreen looks a lot less white. Also, if that's Sulu in his chair and Chekov's chair sitting empty next to him, the shot is aimed at the rear-port side of the bridge; depending on what's directly behind Kirk, the overall look of the bridge can still be quite a lot different than what this image shows.Also, god damn. That bridge is eye-poppingly bright.
The more I see those uniforms thje more I dig them - they're dead ringers for the TOS ones from a distance but space-age up close, they've got all the details - even the rank braids! - but subtly different enough to stand out. Whoever designed those knew what he/she was doing, that's for sure.
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Bana's ears are obviously Vulcan.
So I guess nobody's going to see them. I imagine they'll be mutilated in such a way as to render him unrecognisable.
So I guess nobody's going to see them. I imagine they'll be mutilated in such a way as to render him unrecognisable.
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I thought the same thing, although it's a nice contrast to the last movies where the bridges got darker and more sparsingly lit every time.spaceviking wrote:not the worst bridge, but looks a little to much like apple designed it.
Also, the turrets are cool, if the assumed neo-BSG-influence makes for somehow more realistic tech, it might work out fine and hopefully better than it did in Enterprise.
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Sexy. Isn't that a FASA design?
From the accompanying article - spoilerized due to, well, spoilers:
Star Trek's time-travel plot is set in motion when a Federation starship, the USS Kelvin, is attacked by a vicious Romulan (Eric Bana) desperately seeking one of the film's heroes. From there, the film then brings Kirk and Spock center stage and tracks the origins of their friendship and how they became officers aboard the Enterprise. In fact, the movie shows how the whole original series crew came together: McCoy (Karl Urban), Uhura (Zoë Saldana), Scotty (Simon Pegg), Sulu (John Cho), and Chekov (Anton Yelchin). The adventure stretches from Earth to Vulcan, and yes, it does find a way to have Nimoy appearing in scenes with at least one of the actors on our cover — and maybe both. The storytelling is newbie-friendly, but it slyly assimilates a wide range of Trek arcana, from doomed Captain Pike (Bruce Greenwood) to Sulu's swordsmanship to classic lines like, ''I have been, and always shall be, your friend.'' More ambitiously, the movie subversively plays with Trek lore — and those who know it. The opening sequence, for example, is an emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure to leave zealots howling ''Heresy!'' But revisionism anxiety is the point. ''The movie,'' Lindelof says, ''is about the act of changing what you know.''
From the accompanying article - spoilerized due to, well, spoilers:
Star Trek's time-travel plot is set in motion when a Federation starship, the USS Kelvin, is attacked by a vicious Romulan (Eric Bana) desperately seeking one of the film's heroes. From there, the film then brings Kirk and Spock center stage and tracks the origins of their friendship and how they became officers aboard the Enterprise. In fact, the movie shows how the whole original series crew came together: McCoy (Karl Urban), Uhura (Zoë Saldana), Scotty (Simon Pegg), Sulu (John Cho), and Chekov (Anton Yelchin). The adventure stretches from Earth to Vulcan, and yes, it does find a way to have Nimoy appearing in scenes with at least one of the actors on our cover — and maybe both. The storytelling is newbie-friendly, but it slyly assimilates a wide range of Trek arcana, from doomed Captain Pike (Bruce Greenwood) to Sulu's swordsmanship to classic lines like, ''I have been, and always shall be, your friend.'' More ambitiously, the movie subversively plays with Trek lore — and those who know it. The opening sequence, for example, is an emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure to leave zealots howling ''Heresy!'' But revisionism anxiety is the point. ''The movie,'' Lindelof says, ''is about the act of changing what you know.''
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I'm unsure. I can't tell whether that's a nacelle on top or an engineering hull and deflector dish, given you can see something peeking out beneath the saucer with a red glowing tinge which could be a nacelle.
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That's whay I thought FASA; there's an old design with a Constitution saucer, an engineering hull on top, and two nacelles below. It looks like it was at least inspired by that design.Jon wrote:I'm unsure. I can't tell whether that's a nacelle on top or an engineering hull and deflector dish, given you can see something peeking out beneath the saucer with a red glowing tinge which could be a nacelle.
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Just for shits and giggles: if you take the Kelvin pic, flip it, and rearrange a few parts...
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Interesting, I agree, they look far too young in that first picture. That could just be because they're all looking fairly gormless, though. I also like the uniforms. Sylar-spock definately looks the part.
I notice that that there seem to be green-trailing missiles in both those pictures. Presumably what the villains are firing at them. A different emphasis on missiles here, perhaps?
I notice that that there seem to be green-trailing missiles in both those pictures. Presumably what the villains are firing at them. A different emphasis on missiles here, perhaps?
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I think someone got a bit excited with the airbrush on this one;
8 page story about the movie with some scene descriptions here;
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20233502,00.html
8 page story about the movie with some scene descriptions here;
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20233502,00.html
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OMG they're on display in Madame Tussauds wax museum already?Jon wrote:
On that picture they indeed look like 15.
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Confirmation that the black tunic is a cadet version. Sky battles over Vulcan? That's either going to be incredibly cool or... nah, it'll be cool
What, is this the new stock dumbshit no-brains remark? Or do you just have no idea what a fifteen-year-old looks like?On that picture they indeed look like 15.
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Aren't officers typically in their mid to late 30's before they get command of even a minor ship?
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Weapons should be designed with PRACTICALITY in mind. Gun turrets are practical because the sights and other targeting systems can be mounted on them, sharing a line-of-sight (and fire) so it's easier to aim the weapons. The phaser strips from 'The Next Generation'... not as practical.Stark wrote:Lol weapons should clearly be designed with style in mind!Sidewinder wrote:I still like the design; gun turrets say, "You can have my ship when you tear it from my cold, dead fingers," instead of "Don't shoot! We have no weapons more dangerous than a frowning Klingon!" as Picard-era ships seem to say.
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You're right, there's no acne whatsoever to be seen.Bounty wrote: What, is this the new stock dumbshit no-brains remark? Or do you just have no idea what a fifteen-year-old looks like?
On a more serious note: well yes, 15 is a hyperbole.
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Something about these pictures is not giving me a warm, fuzzy feeling about this movie. I keep having this sinking feeling that they're going to make this film "realistic" and give it a "dramatic edge" with lots of LiveJournal McTeenangst. The Comically Over-the-Top Bad Guy(tm) isn't giving me any warm-fuzzies about this movie either.
I'm waiting to see a trailer, but chances are, I'm going to steer clear of this movie until people here go to see it in the theatres and come back to rant about it.
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