Re: Some Firearms
Posted: 2013-12-16 08:46am
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Yes, you pull back the grip on the back to cock it.LaCroix wrote:Would that work like the Nambu family, (with no slide), or is it just a design feature?
Reminds me of some of the early revolvers not made by the big famous gunsmiths. And remember what many older designs looked like, e.g. 17th-18th century flintlocks. I'm not sure why, but it took people quite a while to realise weird grip shapes didn't help accuracy or comfort when you pulled the trigger.Beowulf wrote:The handle on the revolver looks like it's curved too strongly to be comfortably held.
there could also be that such designs were easier to make or maintain, don't quite me on this as I'm just speculating but it would that those handle of those early designs could have broken of if made similar to modern designs due the materials it was made of.SpottedKitty wrote:Reminds me of some of the early revolvers not made by the big famous gunsmiths. And remember what many older designs looked like, e.g. 17th-18th century flintlocks. I'm not sure why, but it took people quite a while to realise weird grip shapes didn't help accuracy or comfort when you pulled the trigger.Beowulf wrote:The handle on the revolver looks like it's curved too strongly to be comfortably held.
Sounds plausible. Another speculation, those early guns just weren't all that accurate beyond a fairly short distance; the bullets and the insides of the barrel were nowhere near as consistently manufactured as they've been for the last 150-odd years. At least part of the accuracy of modern guns comes from the grip design naturally pointing the thing in the right general direction if you hold it properly, but this would be offset by the uncertainty in how the bullet comes out of the barrel — even if you clamped the gun to a stand and fired it a few times, the shots would still spread. With that situation, would there be any pressure to change the grip design?Lord Revan wrote:there could also be that such designs were easier to make or maintain, don't quite me on this as I'm just speculating but it would that those handle of those early designs could have broken of if made similar to modern designs due the materials it was made of.
I dout it, how ever most early firearms seem to have evolved their grips from those of crossbows so it could be that until you could make modern rifled barrels there wasn't a large about pressure to change the grip designSpottedKitty wrote:Sounds plausible. Another speculation, those early guns just weren't all that accurate beyond a fairly short distance; the bullets and the insides of the barrel were nowhere near as consistently manufactured as they've been for the last 150-odd years. At least part of the accuracy of modern guns comes from the grip design naturally pointing the thing in the right general direction if you hold it properly, but this would be offset by the uncertainty in how the bullet comes out of the barrel — even if you clamped the gun to a stand and fired it a few times, the shots would still spread. With that situation, would there be any pressure to change the grip design?Lord Revan wrote:there could also be that such designs were easier to make or maintain, don't quite me on this as I'm just speculating but it would that those handle of those early designs could have broken of if made similar to modern designs due the materials it was made of.
An interesting variation; I think I've always seen pictures of wheel-locks with the wheel and the spring arm the other way round. Wouldn't this way tend to throw sparks in your face just when you most need to be able to see what you're aiming at?Elheru Aran wrote:Wheel-lock pistols (one of the most common forms for pistol firearms, matchlock pistols were never a big thing) do demonstrate some commonality with crossbows: