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If that's the case, do you still have to care about torpedo boats? Because if you don't, then you can bag the idea of having a multipurpose destroyer (hull's too small for that anyway) and instead use a cruiser-sized hull as a base for a lot of AA and AS weapons, sacrificing surface gunnery and torpedoes. I would expect flying critters to pose a marginal threat anyway, because of either range or load+accuracy limitations. Flying animals will have a hard enough time finding/catching ships at sea without even worrying about having enough ordnance to sink them.

If the submarines are more advanced, then why aren't the surface ships comparable? If the Eisenstadters can build a 1930s or '40s-comparable submarine, then they should be able to build correspondingly advanced surface ships. If their enemies have more advanced submarines and they do not, then their 19-oughts ships will not survive with or without depth charges.
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From the Steller Dominion's universe. An Imperial Terran Army Infantryman in full Combat Uniform, brandishing a VX-24 Irradicator Carbine assigned the process of Imperialization newly annexed territory. He is currently taking a photo-op with one of his collegues over a construction sight (the archologies in the background are quite a bit smaller than i originally thought of them given the buildings that it's suppoesed to be to scale against).

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Hmmm, that trooper's torso and limbs are getting their in terms of depth and proportions, but his head looks very 2D.
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Steampunk Mecha from Pirate Lords: Venoan Carabinieri class Runabouts. These fast vehicles make up a core aspect of the Venoan order of battle serving as scouts and raiders for the Venoan Army. Carabinieri class Runabouts require a crew of four, one Commander who sits in the front seat navigating the craft and piloting it, one Legman who sits behind him, monitoring the motion of the legs and making sure that it has good footing on rough ground and two gunners. It's engine runs on Kerosene. Two varients of these machines exist. The first being the female version (pictured in the front) which is armed with three gatling guns in sponson mounts. Two of which are manned by gunners, one of which is perminantly facing forward and is fired by the Commander and reloaded by the gunnery crew. The Male (in the backgrond) is armed with a forward mounted 57mm cannon and a pair of gunports for rifles and pistols to be fired from in place of sponsons.. Underneith the Chin of the Machine is a shock absorber designed to protect the vehicle in case of a forward nose dive. Despite their speed advantage, Runnabouts are comparitively lightly armored, have vunerable legs and are in general not able to stand up to comprable sized Tracked Land Ironclads. Most Carabinieri class Runabouts are under command of the Venoan Land Navy alongside wheeled and tracked vehicles, although a few operate as the prised possestions of Venoan Patrician Familes, which they ride into battle in lieu of providing and equiping more conventional soldiers and a few have been exported.

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A nameless alien i came up with. These aliens are herd dwelling herbivorous centauriods that live off a diet of grass, leaves, roots and fruit and are the size of cows and breed notably faster than humans. They have a one way pulmonary systems, in which oxygen is inhailed through head mounted nostrils (just behind the eyes on the head) and CO2 exhaled out of a exaust nostril near the abdomen. They are also notable for being a bunch of evil bastards, these creatures developed tool use from developing defensive weaponry against predators. This eventually led to herds of these creatures to hunt down and whipe out all flesh eating land creatures larger than ferrets, as well as their large herbivorous competition. This caused their populations to skyrocket, resulting in an endless cycle of horrible wars as massive herds of these creatures turned on themselves over graising lands. Eventually, a few herds in the more marginal areas developed agriculture, stores and fortifications and with these civilization and metal weapons. With these, the civilized creatures (which had a distinct apperance to them) moved against the wilder herds and gradually conquered them. Lacking any draught animals, they turned to domestication of the conquered herds, treating them as beasts of burden that worked as base labourers, never teaching them trades complex trades and denying them weapons and armor. Rebellious individuals were slaughtered and when rebellions did happen and sucseed, they destroyed all knowledge which would have allowed them to win battles, merely leading to the creation of mobs that well armed and armored forces could quickly defeat. The overlords of the conquered developed more complex methods of control involving religion, seperation of young and forbiddance of interbreeding. Gradually this led to the creation of two distinct sub species, one dominant and cunning with individuals that acted and plotted in a world of underhanded political moves to gain posisition and one servile and dominated, little more than intelligent livestock. When inter-nation warfare on part of the overlords gradually pushed their world to an industrial and latter, scientific revolution they used Genetic Engineering to complete the speciation, creating several distinct worker castes beneith them before pushing out into the stars before encountering another species that fuctioned in a different manner, but i will leave you here for now...

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A three panal comic page.

(Timeline-3177) Battle of Shin Hiroshima, IJSN Admiral Okina has his battleship task force fire a Lance Salvo against the command squadron of a European Alliance Fleet which was moving against another squadron under the command of Admiral Won. IJSN battleships are equiped with Particle Lances, super heavy long range energy cannons with longer range than that of even the most sophisticated turret mounted graser cannons capable of inflicting massive amounts of damage against enemy warships, as you can see it's results against these Westfalen class crusiers. This comes at a cost, as it takes a considerable amount of time charge these weapons, requiring energy from every capacitor on board and takes a sugnifigant time to cool down afterwards and immediatley after firing defense screens and every weapon larger than a point defense gun is inoperable for a few minutes. The Particle Lance cannon itself is fairly fragile and expensive and is generally covered behind an armored hatch between firings. This salvo was sucsessful in destroying three cruisers, crippling two and inflicting heavy damage upon the command ship, including killing the Admiral and destroying command and control abilities across the European Alliance's fleet.

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(Timeline 3177) European Alliance Danmark-class Battleship, production of these warships began in 2196 in responce to the new Soyuz, Yamato and Eugene Debs class battleships being put into service by the United States, Japanese Empire and USSR. Unable to replicate Commonwealth and Japanese Particle Lance technology, The European Alliance came to rely on more conventional weapons, speed and improved resiliance in combat. It's defense screens systems are top notch, able to more effectively disrupt incomming enemy beam fire while it has a greater internal redundancy than a Yamato class warship, although it does have thinner armor than most battleships. In terms of armament, it carries six linier catapults and 80 Launch cells for torpedos located on it's forward hull (out of visiable sight), concield from plain sight. This allows it to mach most battleships in missile duels in terms of continous rate of fire as well as allowing it a single massive opening salvo. It's Energy Armament consists of thirty six cruiser level beam cannons, most of which can be fired forward and have range comprable to that of most battleship strength cannons. The use of cruiser scale beam cannons allows it a very high rate of fire, improves redundancy and siplifies repairs, naval production and naval logistics, although this comes at the expense of armor penetration. Danmark class battleships also have a notable weakness in chace armament and fighter complement, carring only twenty four strike craft (Generally SK-450 Richthofen space superiority fighters) and limited ammunition and supplies for them. Danmark class ships make up the bulk of the Sternenmarine's Wall of Battle during the Third European/Japanese War.

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Imperial Terran Neurological Reprograming station. Imperials have a specific outlook on matters of Crime and Punishment, key among them being a tendancy of looking at criminal behavior (including acts of rebellion against Imperial Authority) as a form of Data corruption. Most citizens of the Imperium are content living happy productive (or at least non intrusive) lives, endevour to obey the law and don't go about killing people on the street for no reason. People who act in criminal manners have what amounts to faulty programming and should be corrected. Things such as fines and jail time are often used but for more severe crimes, the sentance is usually that of Neurological Reprograming. This process involves creating a mind/machine interface to delete and install memories as needed as well as adjust various horomonal levels. It takes some creativity to do, requiring creative specialists to fill in the blanks and program new memories (who oddly enough often consider themselves artists), but the result with a near 100% rate of sucsess is the creation of a stable, law abiding citizen.

In praticular, Neurological Reprograming along with the powers that the Violent Fundamentalism Control (VFC) acts have allowed the Secular Imperium to integrate Religious Fundamentalist populations into the Imperium. It is standard proceedure for Imperial Reprogramers to deal with those who commit crimes of faith by erasing all knowledge of their previous faith besides vauge generalities, generally backed up by general distaste. The effect of which becomes most evident in combating faiths with concepts of heaven for beleivers and (more importantly) hell for unbeleivers and heretics. The zeal of those who beleive an eternal paradise awaits the faithful who die in the name of their god is considerably mired when they know that their faith can be stripped from them, especially when they face forces which has very sophisticated Non Leathal Weapons and is good at survielence.

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Some sketches of various repair robots.

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Repair bots that carry heavy grassers? That's a bad ass repair bot.
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(Timeline-2859) In this timeline, a few otherwise minor changes in the Late Tang dynasty led to the development of several key inventions which gradually led to a early scientific, gunpowder and ultimately industrial revolution in Asia. The Mongol Hordes faced well drilled volley fire from musketeers which dispatched them the chinese managed to set up a few colonies in Eastern Australia in the latter half of the 13th century. However, while China turned away from expansionism due to civil wars in the first years of the 14th century, Goryeo and Japan pushed forward into a major period of colonization and expansionism in the 13th to 15th century. Various commerce wars between Korean and Japanese. These two powers and several offshoot states of them vied for control of the seas, first with tall masted lines of battle, and eventually with ships powered by steam. First they battled over the Americas and New Zealand, carving out massive sections of the continent, then they waged war to seize control of the East Indies, Madagascar and the more choice regions of Africa, made alliances with the moderately developed Indians and struggled the abandoned continent of Australia. Now, their colonial ambitions have brought themselves upon the Primitive backwaters of Europe. The most sophsiticated civilizations of Christendom are the Byzantines, which spared the ravages of the OTL Fourth Crusade, has developed to the cottage industry level and has taken advantage of internal conficts in the Arab world in the 1360s to reclaim Jeruselem and the Dansk, which is now in the process of modernization and Industrialization, remaining independant while Industrializing and Adopting asiatic culture. The Novogoronian Republic has come to dominate the Rus and has pushed it's rule eastward to the Ural mountians, but remains backwards even by European standards. Here we have the Japanese Invasion of England of 1437. Already Ireland has fallen to Korean Colonial ambitions, Now the Primitive Samurai (or "Knights" in local parlance) and levies armed with little better than Matchlocks and longbows of England face the Might of the Various armies of Japan's fuedal Lords. Here we have an Ashigaru Captain standing on watch over a Dead Knight's corpse as an army finishes it's unloading. Soon they will press on to the Capital of London to grant Japan control of the island.

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That's a very imaginative alternative timeline. The Koreans and Japan have replaced the dominant OTL superpowers in the same period which were Spain, France, and Holland.
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Pirate Lords-Venoan Griffin Class Land Cruiser. The Ultimate vehicle of the Venoan Land Navy, massing in at over four thousand tonnes. The Griffin class Land Cruiser carries a massive arsenal, most notably two 300mm cannons, backed up by four 120mm cannons, as well has having mounts for anti-infantry gatling guns on it's underside. Venoa has three such vehicles, one guarding the Home Island, one ready to be deployed abroad (requiring a specialized Transport Ship for oversees operations) and one in reserve in case it is needed. When a Griffin is deployed it inviarably serves as the mobile command center for Venoan Army (Cavalry, towed Artillery, Tengu and Infantry (Human and otherwise)) and Land Navy (Self Propelled guns, Land Ironclads and Walkers) of the Military Forces and their was an instance wher a Doge Himself has overseen campaigns from the bridge of these collosal walking vehicles.

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Quick Sketch inspired by RedImperator's Humanist Inheritence (although this is not supposed to be a ship from that series, just a Chinese Space warship). The Basic goal was to draw an at least semi realistic space warship. It carries an arsenal of 24 anti ship missiles in big external box launchers, counter missiles, five point defense laser clusters (one on a rotating mount) on the aft reactor hull and a heavy forward anti-ship laser.

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Fire Nation Firebender Infantryman (Avatar: the Last Airbender). Originally i was planning on having this guy be standing in front of the char broiled corpse of an Elvish warrior, but i could not manage to get a satisfactory image that was to scale.
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A brief comic on how birds painted themselves into an evolutionary corner.

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You're a horrible person, Zor. You make evolution and biology look like assholes. :D

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That's an interesting ship; but why the terribly thin connector between the engines and main section? Looks like some good acceleration is just going to make it go snap.
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Butt has atomic engine which is radioactive and forward area has to be shielded and distanced to protect crew?
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:You're a horrible person, Zor. You make evolution and biology look like assholes. :D

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Thats how nature bloody works.

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(Avatar Fanart) Here we have a typical western fantasy universe in the land of Caintindorn, where caucasian human feudal kingdoms with Noble Knights, brave adventurers, cunning wizzards in their accademies and illiterate peasants fight each other for prominance. Thick bearded Dwarves dig deep into their mountain homes in search for ancient materials, drink copious amounts of alcoholic beverages and forge metal goods for sale, most notably powerful runic weapons and armor and occasionally have to contend with strange things which lurk in caves. Elves live in a few isolated small cities and forest villages, keeping vast libraries of information which they refuse to share with the world and practice advanced magics while keeping their claimed territories and the enviroments using Rangers and their allies the Ents, Orcs, Goblins, Trolls, Minotaurs and other such creatures which are brutish and savage live in scattered tribes, occasionally launching raids against the more civilized races. Dark elves hide in an isolated dark kingdoms with large numbers of slaves while wearing bondage wear. Dragons sit on mounds of gold in mountains for no praticular reason and other such cliches. Then, suddenly a new land emerged a few hundred kilometers form the eastern coastline, with strange clothing, culture, beasts and food, highly advanced machinery powered by steam, a massive armada of steam powered iron vessels, vast armies of soldiers with command over flame and has a belief, held praticularly high by it's ruler Ozai and his Daughter, that they are destined to bend this world, like fire, to their will.
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Native to the same world as the Radial symetric creature i posted early on, this creature, while (in Layman's terms that leave aside the fact that a garden variety Daylily is more closely related to you than this) a Animal, a core nature to it's existance is that of photosynthesis which provides it with soil, while the creature provides them with carbon dioxide, protection and mobility. It's upper legs have evolved to serve as giant leaves, with webbing filled with algae. THese creatures live in the areas that would be deserts on earth, but support their own distinct ecosystem on this planet. These beasts migrate between barren hot patches of land and rivers and swamp, bloating themselves on water once every couple of months and resting in sunning areas. They supplement there diet by eating more fixed plants, carrion and small creatures while migrating. They also use their leaves to collect rainwater whenever possible. In case of dust-storms, they seal off their "leaves" as such. These beasts are keystone species, around which various species of other animals and plants base themselves around.

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Martian Fighting and Handling Machine from HG Wells The War of the Worlds.
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(WARNING: BULLSHIT TACTICS BELOW, DO NOT INCORPERATE INTO REAL LIFE MILITARY DOCTRINE)

(Timeline 6192) Vengence Class Land Destroyer (post 1924-26 Refit varient). Introduced in the 1912 into the Royal Land Navy, the Vengence Class Land Destroyer was designed with similar purposes in mind to it's seagoing counterparts, first and foremost, squadrons of land destroyes would move ahead of Land Battleships (Most Notably the Dreadnought and Queen Victoria class) on the move as spotteres looked out for self propelled and mobile towed guns and screen the heavier Landships against them, making use of superior speed, durrability, manuverability and firepower. Many an artilleryman died as he was cut down by machinegun fire from a Land Destroyer. They also provide escorts to convoys of supply trucks and raided enemy convoys.

During the Great Plains Campaign of the Great War (1915-1921), the Royal Land Navy and the Locally recruited Royal Canadian Land Navy's North American Fleet made use of a total of 85 Vengence class Land Destroyers. After America entered the War on the side of Germany in 1916, the United States Army Landship Corps outnumbered the American Fleet by nearly 3 to one in terms of manpowere and 2 to one in terms of total Landships. However, the bulk of the American fleet was hopelessly out of date. In praticular they over emphisized on more "traditional" artillery, their destroyer doctrine proved praticularly flawed and their destroyer fleet was out of date. The primary pre-war American Land Destroyer (the General Sherman class) proved to be hopelessly out of date, being only capable of 25 kilometers per hour and having exposed mounts instead of turrets for its four 3 inch guns. The battle of Kansas City (May 25th, 1918), the largest fleet action between the USLC and the North American Fleet which involved 24 Land battleships, 18 cruisers, 65 destroyers and 1,000 scouts and other light vehicles and the demolishing of two villiages as lines of battle rolled over them was won by the Commonwealth Forces specifically due to suppply harrasment by Land Destroyers, most notably the Vengence class HMCLS Winnipeg under the command of Captain Walter Cummings, completing the Excaliber Plan, cutting the United States in two with a straight line from Manitoba to Texas under British occupation, a state of affairs which would continue despite American Attempts to break it until the Treaty of Versailles. Vengence class Land Destroyers would remain in active service in the forces of the British Empire until the late 1930s, slowly being replaced by the Regina, Dorchester and Cummings class, although a few would see rearguard action and service as training ships during the second great war (1942 to 1948).

The Vengence Class was leased to Russia during the Great War, and was notable for playing a key roll in the Russian Revolution. Since the bulk of the Russian Land Navy's sailors were sympathetic to the Bolsheviks, they also played a major roll in the destruction of the White Army and many soviet propaganda posters had Lenin or Trotski staning on the prow of these ships leading on revolutionaries against Tsarist Imperialists and so forth. These Soviet Vengence class (renamed Yakov Sverdlov class post revolution) Landships would latter give rise to the Leningrad class, three of which were supplied to the Northern Debsian Social Democrats during the Second American Civil War (1935 to 1938).
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The bridge tower looks a bit wonky, make your ships and vehicles more 3Dish.
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