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by NecronLord
2024-02-25 05:14pm
Forum: Pure Star Trek
Topic: Enterprise- Federation flagship?
Replies: 20
Views: 2734

Re: Enterprise- Federation flagship?

To my knowledge no there's nothing beyond trying to extrapolate NCC numbers in alpha canon.
by NecronLord
2024-02-25 12:37pm
Forum: Pure Star Trek
Topic: Enterprise- Federation flagship?
Replies: 20
Views: 2734

Re: Enterprise- Federation flagship?

If you want a Watsonian reason then there's a simple enough one, the Sovereign appears to be a prestige ship, not suited for serialized production compared to the others, while the likes of the Akira and Steamrunner are. We know that the Galaxy Class initial run was between six and twelve ships afte...
by NecronLord
2024-02-24 07:31pm
Forum: Pure Star Trek
Topic: Enterprise- Federation flagship?
Replies: 20
Views: 2734

Re: Enterprise- Federation flagship?

We traditionally take a documentary approach when discussing the technological capabilities, but when we are discussing why we see certain things in the fiction, the doylist answer is fine. Certainly if we're taking the Star Trek Beta Canon for its answers the Enterprise-E was involved in a mission ...
by NecronLord
2024-02-24 07:06pm
Forum: Pure Star Trek
Topic: Enterprise- Federation flagship?
Replies: 20
Views: 2734

Re: Enterprise- Federation flagship?

The simple answer for why we didn't see the Enterprise in the Dominion War is that the audience would immediately want to see how all their TNG favourites were doing.
by NecronLord
2023-04-09 01:00pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

In a context in which it was so easy to strike at undefended worlds, why did the Empire need the Death Star? The only way the Death Star makes any sense as a concept is if it is used to threaten shielded worlds so that the Empire doesn't need a costly siege, as clearly happened at the end of the Cl...
by NecronLord
2023-04-05 03:35pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

Star Wars planets seem to rely heavily on being able to get help from out of system quickly enough to matter. That seems to be sufficient for the threats they are expecting, unless the forces they call for help refuse to respond. But would that response be quick enough to fight off a borg cube ? So...
by NecronLord
2023-04-05 02:53am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

Going through case by case nitpicks from Disney canon shows made for spectacle and trying to extrapolate that to an entire faction frankly doesn't look very well. There's quite a bit of difference from a book outright stating that ""33% of these worlds will lack ANY kind of planetary defe...
by NecronLord
2023-04-04 04:56pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

For Star Wars I dislike the claim that this is tropey. Let's look at the planets visited in the latest seasons of Bad Batch, Andor and Mandalorian. Warning, spoilers: Serenno, no planetary defences shown when it would be rational for them to be used; in fairness these might have been suppressed in t...
by NecronLord
2023-04-04 10:48am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

...damn. W40K might even be more deficient than I thought. On the last point-- not really going to continue to argue this point other than note that without context that scene alone honestly tells very little. I'd note that planets with no anti-orbit defences is pretty de-rigeur in space operatic s...
by NecronLord
2023-04-04 09:51am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

Again, could we please get some quantification for "huge portions are isolated and without defense"? Not that I disagree, but this is rather vague. Certainly. Refer to p. 140 of Battlefleet Gothic shich gave a 33% chance of any given Agri or Mining world having no planetary defences at al...
by NecronLord
2023-04-04 07:08am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

Oh the troops with boltguns would kill them, but the troops with boltguns are a vanishingly small minority. There's also a chance that lasguns could work and even if they don't stubbers, shotguns, and frag grenades will and exist in large quantities. As far as we can see the SOP is to just beam peo...
by NecronLord
2023-04-04 06:30am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

""Splendidly ill equipped to defend"" not that I actually think this is wrong but could you quantify this? Huge portions of the Imperium are isolated and without access to either starships or high end defence tech. Some do have system ships and planetary defences, but a great ma...
by NecronLord
2023-04-03 04:54pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

It does take some blithe unselfawareness to throw shade at Star Trek for having space mysticism in a discussion vs. 40k, to be fair. The Imperium's chief problems with regard to the borg is that the Imperium is splendidly ill equipped to actually defend its territory or stop people being assimilated...
by NecronLord
2023-04-03 03:02pm
Forum: Pure Star Trek
Topic: Picard - general discussion [spoilers]
Replies: 407
Views: 184579

Re: Picard - general discussion [spoilers]

I don't think it's canon but I'm fond of the Naval Construction Contract explanation.

That would still imply there were 76 of a new flight of connies built in series 19 though.
by NecronLord
2023-04-03 02:49pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

Oh sure. Though fwiw I'm sure there are many more accounts of scarcity and poor logistics. Not to mention how the IoM has quite a few worlds that are really underdeveloped. Not a downplay or anything that's going to be overly relevant in this particular scenario, just a note. Yeah that scene is jus...
by NecronLord
2023-04-03 02:20pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

I'm not quite sure what you are implying with the RPG line. That quite often people see what's in the RPGs and take it as the norm for the Imperium - e.g. people think the Imperium's currency is thrones, when that's actually only part of the calixis sector in Dark Heresy. Serephis Secundus is a not...
by NecronLord
2023-04-03 09:52am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

Well one could argue that size arguably does play a role in "measuring industry". But this can be inconsistent and/or hindered by other things-- I can drag out a book where a major IoM mining planet is using medieval tools to fulfill its""tithes"". I should hope you ca...
by NecronLord
2023-04-03 08:53am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

To be a bit pedantic when I specified TNG it was more meant to refer to that ""era"" so to speak since it seems to me most people assume it refers to that entire time period anyways (and because specifying a different show that covers such a relatively short period of time might...
by NecronLord
2023-04-03 06:33am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

Well if you're asking about W40K, Warp travel is one of the things it seems no one can really decide on. I vaguely recall crossing a sector or parts of it is months at the least, and crossing all IoM space is years. Well I heard people claiming that Star Trek's UFP seems more "shiny" and ...
by NecronLord
2023-04-02 04:32pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets
Replies: 57
Views: 9998

Re: W40K Imperium of Man vs. Star Trek United Federation of Planets

In either case the Imperium wins any military conflict handily, by dint of sheer scale of resources as well as speed provided by warp travel.
by NecronLord
2023-04-02 02:32pm
Forum: Pure Star Trek
Topic: Picard - general discussion [spoilers]
Replies: 407
Views: 184579

Re: Picard - general discussion [spoilers]

The general thing I don't like about this has less to do with Roddenberry as a person, and more Star Trek as the idea that perhaps we can have an upbeat future. Too many plots about the deep state doing torture doesn't fit that at all. This feels like it makes the end of DS9 more contrived not less....
by NecronLord
2023-04-02 02:11pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: SW Galactic Empire amd W40K Imperium of Man vs. Orion's Arm Sephirotic Civs and ST Federation
Replies: 18
Views: 3419

Re: SW Galactic Empire amd W40K Imperium of Man vs. Orion's Arm Sephirotic Civs and ST Federation

You didn't actually address the pertinent points raised underneath the slightly (minimally, really, if the many other exchanges on this forum are any precedent) spicy phrasing fwiw. In fact you really haven't been doing so for many recent posts but frankly this thread is winding down anyways. Tbh t...
by NecronLord
2023-04-02 02:11pm
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: SW Galactic Empire amd W40K Imperium of Man vs. Orion's Arm Sephirotic Civs and ST Federation
Replies: 18
Views: 3419

Re: SW Galactic Empire amd W40K Imperium of Man vs. Orion's Arm Sephirotic Civs and ST Federation

You didn't actually address the pertinent points raised underneath the slightly (minimally, really, if the many other exchanges on this forum are any precedent) spicy phrasing fwiw. In fact you really haven't been doing so for many recent posts but frankly this thread is winding down anyways. Tbh t...
by NecronLord
2023-04-01 01:03am
Forum: Science Fiction
Topic: SW Galactic Empire amd W40K Imperium of Man vs. Orion's Arm Sephirotic Civs and ST Federation
Replies: 18
Views: 3419

Re: SW Galactic Empire amd W40K Imperium of Man vs. Orion's Arm Sephirotic Civs and ST Federation

At this point you're basically just ad-hominem attacking OA because you don't like it? I'm hardly a fan myself - I don't think I've read more than one of their actual stories and I've browsed the website a few times and that's about it, but that's not really the basis for an argument.