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... What the fuck? It's rather astonishing that I have to say this, but C-3PO... does not have a reproductive system. You fucking dumbass. Are you seriously a mod on this board? This is by far the stupidest point anyone has raised to me yet on this board (even counting Wong's stupidities in the pas...

How can you justify any of my points as being good for society or the individual involved ? What do you mean? It is good for society to recognize when people are dead. How do you prove mental maturity ? What level of maturity are you looking for ? I am not willing to engage in a political debate wi...

I am not interested in kowtow to moderator "orders." If it's against the rules, then do whatever you want to my account, but I don't give a damn what you "order" me to do. This is a message board, not the military.
(although with all the soldiers around here, one could be fooled)

Franc28, if we assume that transporters do kill the person using one, how does your morality say we should treat the guy who was materialised ? They don't own any property. Everything they think they own actually belonged to the dead guy, meaning other people have inherited it. They don't have a jo...

i already answered this before. Here is the post again: "Uh, no. No one said anything about "robot labor" being analogous to slavery. We were talking specifically about sapient beings. No one has made such a request, because it's ridiculous on its face. It is obvious that the enslavem...

The Doctor? Really? I didn't really think he was a viable option, as I think of him as crumbling under pressure, but on the other hand he does step up to the plate when everything depends on him. He just seems to be really grumpy and assertive enough to say things out loud that most people wouldn't.

I think I have adequately addressed the questions that have been brought up on this thread. Stop beating around the bush and asking me to account for a whole debate, which is a ridiculous request. If you think I have failed to answer a specific question or issue, then ask the question or pose the is...

I'm not saying Torres is command material, just that she has got to be in the top 3 of this sorry bunch.

Just curious, why didn't anyone vote for Torres before me? I don't think she'd make the best captain, but she's leagues beyond most of these bozos (which include a cardboard cutout, an eternal loser who can't keep his dick in his pants, an ex-Borg drone who doesn't understand how humans work, and an...

Sorry, I was unable to finish editing my post. Here is what I wanted to write: Uh, no. No one said anything about "robot labor" being analogous to slavery. We were talking specifically about sapient beings. No one has made such a request, because it's ridiculous on its face. It is obvious ...

Certainly. But nobody else did. So none of those potential sellers is part of the causal chain and YOU are! Being replaceable doesn't remove you from the causal chain as long as you're not actually replaced. Which you aren't. My original point, if you read the post in question, was that I was a nec...

Uh, no. No one said anything about "robot labor" being analogous to slavery. We were talking specifically about sapient beings. No one has made such a request, because it's ridiculous on its face. Try again.

*sigh* So you think that all open-heart surgery patients die, but then come back to life 2 hours later? Clearly for you death is irrelevant, then. I think you misread me completely. What I was saying is that what you just said there is false. I do not believe they die and come back to life. If you ...

Again, I am not interested in discussing personal standards. If you're okay with standing by idly while people die and don't consider it unethical, then that's your opinion. I think readers can form their own opinion on whether it is murder to directly and personally participate in someone's death. ...

Then - if I follow you correctly - you must think that heart-transplant patients. . . and hell, ANYONE under general anesthesia - dies during surgery? AFAIK, heart surgery does not obliterate the patient to their component atoms. So... what's your point? Again, this is a Ship of Theseus argument wh...

Okay. You sell someone a car. This person takes the car for a spin beyond the speed limit and causes a pile-up on the motorway causing multiple deaths and horrible injuries, including a mother and newborn child trapped in burning wreckage and burning to death there. You are part of that chain of ev...

Sela, you are wasting my time. Not because of your giant digression, but because of your main point. Again, you are using a circular argument in order to make your point. If continuity is used as one's standard, then the brain is not "restarted." The brain is destroyed. Period. Then a new ...

It certainly isn't murder. Murder requires intent, and an active participation in the act that causes a death. If I were to come upon a man dying of thirst, and refuse to supply him with water, watching him die a horrible death, I'm no murderer. You are a necessary part of the chain of events that ...

I don't think many people here ever argued they are squeaky clean Yea, but that's hardly the point. The point is that people here are using the Star Trek people as a standard of ethics, as if what they think must be automatically valid. My point is that the Star Trek people are far, far below even ...

The Genocide of the Valakians? They were dying off due to a natural flaw in their genetics. Phlox did have the cure but choosing to let nature take its course is not genocide. What do you mean, "let nature take its course"? What do you mean? If a doctor had in his possession a cure to adm...

Don't try to hide behind Sela's statement which I have just addressed. I used my definition of life to highlight the stupidity of your claim that Data is (excepting composite material) identical in every way to a human. He doesn't eat. He doesn't shit. He doesn't breathe. Identical to a human? He d...

Sorry, my point about the occupation of Earth was not technically correct. It was the president of the UFP who ordered it, not Starfleet. However, it was shown as being the result of direct pressure from Starfleet.

Let me ask you to clarify your premise. What is death? At what point is someone dead? My gut feeling is that to qualify the transporter as "killing" someone (and thus making them dead) you must define death in so broad a way as to make it a useless word. If you seriously believe that utte...

What examples of genocide and slavery are you talking about? The genocide of the Valakians in Dear Doctor (ENT), for one. Not to mention the countless times TNG has flirted with the idea, based solely on the Prime Directive, and no one could come up with anything better than legalistic counter-argu...

In my little list, I also forgot murder (Tuvix's murder, at least). Once again, no one batted an eye except the holographic doctor, who was himself treated as little more than garbage even though he was the only qualified doctor on the ship.