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Oh, so it would take "psychic" powers for you to be able to discuss the fact that Stark acted like a child even though this fact was acknowledged early on, even before this thread began? Bullshit. You didn't need me to remind you of things that had already been said. The problem is that y...

It's "ludicrous" to blast the Senate for taking the opportunity to attack each other instead of conducting an intelligent discussion of the issue? It's "ludicrous" to think that the Senate should be capable of bringing up such obvious points on its own, without me having to stor...

I take it you didn't notice how many members actually did stick up for him, despite the racist trolling. I saw it as more people unwilling to make a call because they wanted Poe to apologize instead of taking direct action. Even supermods were saying to give Poe a chance to cool off and apologize b...

The problem I'm having with the Senate right now is that it's acting like a social club, not like a useful deliberative body. When one of its own members misbehaves, it has demonstrated itself to be completely incapable of dealing with the situation, unless you think "circling wagons around th...

I don't particularly care whether Shep, Bean, and Coyote did a good case of arguing their point. The Senate is not supposed to consist of people who act like children and require a smack on the head from an authority figure before they will discuss things like adults. Doesn't discussing things like...

Then he can make real accusations in the Senate, instead of making cloying passive/aggressive accusations elsewhere. Real accusations can be discussed and refuted if necessary. The vague needling bullshit was totally unacceptable. Frankly, I came within a hair's breadth of simply banning him at one...

I suppose the fact that I had to personally tell him to shut the fuck up with his goddamned passive/aggressive accusations of moderator abuse of power doesn't factor into this at all? That's a goddamned bannable offense, for fuck's sake. Except that you yourself indicated that the Senate is suppose...

4. I don't think it was necessary to bring up specific members of this body as comparisons to Stark. It's not at all fair to Bear, since he's not on trial here. While I am well aware of the point Hotfoot was trying to make, I will ask that these discussions be kept to the persons involved. Fair eno...

I have better things to do tonight, like work on cleaning up my scans at the Archives II of various never built aircraft projects than to skim Stark's recent posting history. Yes, why let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good showtrial, right? Ha. You could stop the post there for all ...

Except he has never posted a damn useful thing. Or if he has, it's been lost in the tidal wave of useless zippy oneliners larded with 4chan memes. Yeah, that's right! Never posted a single useful thing! Except those two threads you linked to from his nomination and the seven more you conveniently f...

Nearly all of us have made some "zippy one-liners". Stark has made a career of them. I'd ask how you'd define a career, but I doubt I'd get an answer beyond "Well it's a gut feeling really". Then start a [Discussion] about Bear. And we're discussing Stark's violations, which som...

Because he isn't a worthless 4chan spammer. His posts are usually a bit run on and incomprehensible, but he doesn't lard them up with 4chan style spam like "LOL WHO KNEW", "SRZ BUSZNESS", "LOL FATTYNERDS" Ah, so the style of the pointless spam matters. Is there a form?...

Hell, I've made some useless posts, and I can be an asshole myself. Might as well call for my expulsion if that's the benchline we're shooting for. Except your useless post to useful post ratio is significantly above 1:1. Stark? Not so much. Let's clarify this: Why are you going after Stark, becaus...

Should every senator have to provide such proof of their worth? If so, you and all the rest of us should start now. The motion presented is that Stark is unfit to be a Senator. It is up to those making that assertion to provide proof of that claim, and so far it's been a lot of hemming and hawing ab...

Fair enough.


And excellent...

I am a man of my word, even if it ends me up in the hospital. Remember that Greg.

So, shall this be a public discussion in the Senate, or shall we move it to more live proceedings?

Once again, almost a month now. The Senate gave up it's option to take action when it failed to bring anything to a vote and the issue in the eyes of the admin staff got worse. It would be different if there were a few plans that had been put to a vote and defeated. Or better still approved. Instea...

So it turns out people aren't really impressed with Moderators that use their power simply because they can? I mean, honestly, I know that was used as an excuse as to "why oppress testing" but really, it's just old. I personally don't look at mod powers as an excuse to use them, in fact, I...

Pirated games appear on day one. It doesn't take any real time to show up. The difference between the options in the OP is that piracy is illegal. You can't stop people reselling games (even if it was as much of a loss in profit - ps, genius, you can resell PC games too) but you CAN attempt to stop...

RedImperator wrote:I wouldn't yet rule out this whole thing being an elaborate troll. In fact, the more I think about it, the better the possibility seems to be.

But, but, it's not April!

Extreme cases like someone using a phrase that's on the "unacceptable shorthand" list.

Am I right?

Seriously though, this is a good example of why I've been saying that the Senate is essentially worthless.

Hey, as long as we're getting stuff done in record time today, can we abolish the Senate now? It took a month to get to this point, I must say I enjoy your definition of "record time". Hey, for the Senate, it's blazing speed. Not that actual Senate action had anything to do with either si...

Hey, as long as we're getting stuff done in record time today, can we abolish the Senate now?

No, seriously, I sincerely doubt anyone was thinking of you really. Most of us were directing our ineffectual annoyance at Bean, who was the ruthless dictator of oppressing testingstan. You should not complain about Mr Bean. One of the reasons I let him deal with Testingstan is that it allows me to...

Rob, these threads were here for a month, open for all to see. If you have a concern, you could have brought it up at the time, when the policy was still under discussion, rather than wait a month and then accuse everyone of going behind your back. A thread in the Senate and the HoC is not "be...