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Here's a rather important question to Darthy and Watch-man if stormtrooper armor is truly as ineffective as you claim it is, why is it used? The empire is 19 years old at start of the OT surely if stormtrooper armor didn't "protect against anything" it would been swapped for an armor that...

According to the visuals which 100% of the time fail to show vapourization and, even ignoring Starfleet doesn't know what they're talking about half the time anyway, people use imprecise terminology. Who knew? It never happens in real life, does it? Oh wait. How ignorant are you? I just said there ...

This example from voyager episode "The 37's" is telling. Voyager encountered humans who were wearing protective gear and the stun setting was still effective on them.

It does no such ting. It sure does. Every time someone says something was varporized from a phaser, that's another assumption we need to assume that they do not mean vaporization according to you. Indeed. And the in-canon explanation is phasers DON'T vapourize. Leaving SoD. Automatic fail. The reas...

Pasers having a high energy capacity was never contested. The TNG TMP explicitely says so (to the point that a single hand phaser power cell has enough energy to power the saucer phaser arrays for hours of continuous fire). The fact remains that we never see a a hand phaser show the side effects in...

Has anyone used the Galileo Seven episode to calculate a phasers potential energy before? SCOTT: One of the lines gave. The strain of coming through the atmosphere and the added load when we tried to bypass. Yes, that's done it. We have no fuel. SPOCK: That would seem to solve the problem of who to ...

https://i.imgsafe.org/4f7a8c2fdf.png The velocity of those Klingon could be as high as 7 or 8 meters per second. I have an alternate hypothesis: phasers, as directed energy weapons, have brief seizure-inducing properties (a "shock") on humans and humanoids (with a central nervous system, ...

6mph = 2.7m/s 250lbs = 113.4kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ewfyyE6DI 2:52 (1/2)*113.4*(2.7)^2 = 413 joules The fruit is maybe 2 lbs = 0.9kg throwing at maybe 20mph = 8.9m/s (1/2)*0.9*(8.9)^2 = 35 joules University of Washington in Seattle, WA. Professor Tom Steiger calculates a Karate punch to...

Ah, so you're a KNOWN complete and utter moron back for another thrashing. Good to know. Khaat did NOT do a bad job. A probably somewhat inaccurate one, yes, but not only did he say so himself, but he did something you completely failed to do in this thread -he presented numbers. On short notice. A...

It took Khaat 10 MINUTES to do so. You have failed to produce any numbers for days. That's different, he did a poor job and is among friends. No big deal for him. I said you could just eyeball it and no calculations are necessary. I've done calculations before though see: http://bbs.stardestroyer.n...

Translation: You can't, and know fully well you can't so you're whining we wouldn't accept it anyway. You have provided NO CALCULATIONS WHATSOEVER regarding the KE/momentum of a phaser discharge, leave alone how they compare to the Ewok rocks yet blithely assumed a phaser (on stun, no less, when yo...

Go ahead, show me a time where you've offered valid evidence and I haven't taken it on board. That's circular. The people receiving the arguments plays a factor in the confidence that the arguer has in his evidence. Potassium argon dating as proof of an old earth presented to a young earth creation...

Esquire wrote:I await your calculations. That you don't think they're convincing has nothing to do with me.

Oh how do you know my reasons for thinking that they won't be convincing to you has nothing to do with you?

That hasn't been the issue for at least the last two pages, and if you disagree you're welcome to prove it. The question of whether or not the STVI weapon is a phaser or not is accidental the the above, and, I note, has yet to be addressed usefully. For the fifth time in two pages, demonstrate your...

That rather undermines your argument that phaser blasts carry sufficient kinetic energy to knock out their targets, doesn't it? And did you miss the bit where I specifically said: The question isn't 'do they have some KE component,' it's 'how much of one?' You think it's enough to knock out a storm...

What, the one where Quark falls over, the one on the artificial planet with uncertain gravity and other physical characteristics using an uncertain phaser setting, and the one that's unlike any other phaser ever shown? The question isn't 'do they have some KE component,' it's 'how much of one?' You...

...Neither of those pictures either A) shows what you say they do, B) can't be explained by other means (disintegration, either in whole or in part), or C) establishes any equivalence between average phaser-imparted kinetic energy, phaser stun-blast-imparted kinetic energy, and/or the amount of kin...

Okay here's the proof. We see a phaser knock a door open in TNG episode "Encounter at Farpoint":



in episode "First Contact" we see a phaser shoot a medical device over:

This is an example of a true dichotomy, actually; what's the third option between 'is representative of general Starfleet capabilities' and 'is not representative of general Starfleet capabilities,' exactly? But fair enough: name a generally-issued type of phaser which causes bleeding open wounds. ...

That's... like six different logical fallacies all wrapped up into one incoherent, poorly-spelled pseudoargument. Precisely how much kinetic energy is needed to knock out a stormtrooper? Precisely how much does a standard phaser impart? If you use the one-off not-really-a-phaser from STVI, why shou...

We've been through it before, you should know that I know how to do it. :D The kinetic energy used to knock out a stormtrooper is low from the scenes I picked out. The amount of kinetic energy from a phaser may be low too, but high enough to affect a stormtrooper. If it weren't so easy to knock out...

Yes and no. It's not a stun if your target ignores your fire no matter what your weapon was set for. See ARCHER: This doesn't look very residential. Set your phase pistol to kill. When the Reptilians boarded Enterprise, stun had no effect. See what you can find out. I'll look over there. They still...

This is not an argument. You are begging the question, a formal logical fallacy; you assume that no extra power is required to bypass stormtrooper armor. No your question is flawed. More power makes it less of a stun setting. How much power do you want to pump into someone and call it stun? Enough ...

Calculations, please. You're the one claiming that being hit in the head by a trained soldier wearing armor of uncertain capabilities is not a serious threat. Precise calculations are not necessary. You can just eyeball this one. We see stormtroopers get knocked out with little physical contact. 0....

This is not an argument. You are begging the question, a formal logical fallacy; you assume that no extra power is required to bypass stormtrooper armor. No your question is flawed. More power makes it less of a stun setting. How much power do you want to pump into someone and call it stun? Asking ...