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by Luke Skywalker
2016-05-02 09:01am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: IQ and general intelligence
Replies: 11
Views: 6079

Re: IQ and general intelligence

Sorry, I've been incredibly busy; I should be able to reply by this week.
by Luke Skywalker
2016-04-27 03:05am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: IQ and general intelligence
Replies: 11
Views: 6079

Re: IQ and general intelligence

Even if we assume that your whole argument, that I can't show causation, is correct, it wouldn't get rid of IQ's usefulness as a statistical measure at all. Thus proving you know absolutely nothing about statistics. But hey, if you think really think it's that simple, why don't you tell me what stat...
by Luke Skywalker
2016-04-26 12:04am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: IQ and general intelligence
Replies: 11
Views: 6079

Re: IQ and general intelligence

My IQ is in the upper 130's lower 140's depending on the test. Check out my life story. :lol: :banghead: I know that you're kidding, but just to jump off of it: I think aside from focusing on anecdotes, a lot of us might understate the importance of IQ because we honestly see a lot of other factors...
by Luke Skywalker
2016-04-25 11:56pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: IQ and general intelligence
Replies: 11
Views: 6079

Re: IQ and general intelligence

Summary: Congratulations, you've found a possible/likely correlation, now you get to prove a causation. Have fun. "proving" causation is probably only possible via genetic linking (which has been done to some extent - given time I can pull sources), but it's not that difficult to produce ...
by Luke Skywalker
2016-04-25 11:52pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: IQ and general intelligence
Replies: 11
Views: 6079

Re: IQ and general intelligence

Please be advised that the world is inevitably more complicated than it appears after one or two years of college. If you want to remain on the path from "know nothing" to "know a lot," keep looking out for complicating variables; don't try to impose a one-size-fits-all explanat...
by Luke Skywalker
2016-04-25 10:53pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: IQ and general intelligence
Replies: 11
Views: 6079

IQ and general intelligence

Lately I've gotten really interested in psychometric research, particularly that pertaining to intelligence. I think it's fascinating that a single construct seems to have so much explanatory power, and that so much sociological research just pretends it doesn't exist. Essentially, (and there may be...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 01:50am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

You keep saying this, but haven't given any compelling reasons to believe that it's true. What? That it's unique? That's simply Occam's razor; we've never observed it anywhere else. That it's more than just an abstraction? Are you seriously suggesting that the inner world you experience is not some...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 01:42am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

some form of software that has self awareness as a side effect. This is where your "reading books" doesn't help you. All "side effects" in the physical world can be predicted by the laws of physics. The laws of physics cannot predict that this type of software will produce this ...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 01:26am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

It's . . . the physical cause that makes the information systems capable of performing the logical operations that we have labeled "qualia". Qualia is more than a logic operation; the "inner world" that exists within our heads, like a little camera, is unique. If you look at our...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 01:06am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

No, you stupid overbearing screeching schoolboy-with-delusions-of-grandeur, the explanation you demand does not exist. Not in the format you want. And when people patiently explain to you, writing whole pages of detailed, informative material, on why it does not exist... you ignore them. You assume...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 12:45am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

something that doesn't exist :lol: So now qualia doesn't exist, right after you blasted me for falsely thinking I asserted as such, and right after you posted neuroscientific research on the very subject? You are in way over your head, and despite your advanced age, you know nothing . Good day.
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 12:35am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

This is still a terrible definition YOUR PROFESSIONAL RESEARCH SOURCES USED IT , and you claimed I had never given it to you before! I'll take your concession. I used it only to throw it back at you because at no point was I ever completely sure what you were even asking about. Just show some integ...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 12:27am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

So . . . your big claim is that we don't have 100% complete knowledge of how the brain works? I don't think anyone here disagrees with that. We freely admit that there's a gap in our knowledge here and that we're very excited about filling it, as we've been making exciting progress toward recently....
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 12:24am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

Finally got a chance to reply to Luke. I am going to try to avoid any insulting remarks other than ones that are, well, self-evidently correct as a matter of fact and which actually constitute advice Luke could profit from. And just what credentials do you have to give me "advice" I could...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-08 12:07am
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

Qualia is the sensations you feel in the little "video camera" that goes on in your mind, ie, experiences that only you can feel and that cannot directly be picked up by any physical instrumentation. Once again you run into tautologies when you ask for a scientifically rigorous definition...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 11:55pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

the <human> "has the subjective experience" of <feeling the texture of concrete>. There is no first cause explanation for why this "subjective experience" occurs as a consequence of the patterns you mentioned, but not, for example, when a sun undergoes nuclear fusion. The proble...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 11:43pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

A person as smart as you claim to be should be able to take the dick out of his mouth* long enough to say what he means rather than circling for three pages and pissing a ton of people off a long the way. I actually recall using that description in the first or second page, and then repeating it mu...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 11:16pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

No, I'm providing proof for things that I think are what you mean when you use the term, but given that I am not you I'm at best guessing at what evidence I post will fall within your criteria. Well, you're right. That inner camera inside the brain is exactly what I'm looking for. Don't pretend tha...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 10:51pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

Why should I have to provide that when you're the one who asked the question. So you have a satisfactory definition, obviously since you have referred to it yourself and made scientific claims, and even quoted research to it, but you are deliberately withholding it from me because it isn't your &qu...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 10:34pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

Jub. You acknowledge that we've tested qualia scientifically already - why not just use the definition you clearly have for yourself!?
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 09:43pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

Yeah, because it's not like this entire board was founded on the allowance of flames or something, and Simon was clearly being totally cordial to me, because it's OK as long as you're being passively-aggressive. :roll: Yes, I'm younger than you, but to put it bluntly, I'm also a lot smarter than you...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 09:31pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

Oh, look, another me-tooer! Let's see what this jokester has to say: You sure come across as overconfident, overbearing, underinformed, and in general a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect. And... you are what, a college sophomore plus or minus a little? You should, at this time, still seriou...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 09:04pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

Ignoring the first bit because again you seem to have the retarded idea that there is some step between have neural net that is self-aware and predict consciousness. The same fundamental principles that define neural nets also define any acts that those neural nets can perform. Consciousness is no ...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 08:37pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

And the point people are making is that they are NOT different things. It's just one same thing seen from two different perspectives. The "subjective" thing is only as subjective as much any other perception you have and only because one of those two perspectives happens to be your limite...
by Luke Skywalker
2015-01-07 07:01pm
Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
Topic: Question on physical laws and consciousness
Replies: 92
Views: 16813

Re: Question on physical laws and consciousness

I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to grasp. Perhaps you could read my posts a little more carefully instead of skimming them over and just assuming me to be another philosophical whimsical "science is flawed!" argument? That's what Starglider did, when he claimed that phy...