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i'm a little disappointed you see to refer making up vague stuff instead of the actual numbers i gave you last page. particularly since every time someone points out the saint's will loose you change the rules to give them more of a chance. The numbers weren't really necessary for what I was trying...

As for Warhammer40k 1. Yes, unless magic (magic isn't realistic either) is involved you need to have a helmet on when in space to protect your precious body from the non-existant pressure, radiation, extreme temperatures, and the fact there is no oxygen in space, I should not have to explain why, b...

Considering the "superhuman" aspects of the boss are both tied to cash and respect (of all things) we can safely say that those abilities are mere gameplay and can be disregarded. There's no reason to regard the Boss as anything but a normal, if incredibly brutal and sociopathic human. Th...

Boss' personality is overwhelmed by the hive mind and he/she becomes just another runner. He/she is shows to be susceptible to mind-altering substances quite handily after all. Since Mercer isn't there to misdirect Blackwatch, NYZ gets nuked and that's the end of it. I will point out that yes, Merc...

IF Mercer does take an interest in the Saints this will probably end up badly for them. While it MAYBE possible for the Saints or more specifically the Boss to take on Mercer in a direct confrontation (Boss in a VTOL might equal win or Boss with Saints Flow though VTOL is better), Mercer's ability t...

Stark wrote:The saints aren't part orbits plan but willbe fighting black watch, the core of his plans. Hmm.

Didn't Mercer want to destroy Blackwatch? And use Gentek's research against them to spread the virus globally?

unless we're talking about post-infestation Heller (whose motives and goals I'm not sure of), he's a non-factor in the scenario anyway as he's he's unable to harm Mercer when they faced against each other (granted Heller had only his knife but still). Post infestation Heller's sole goal became kill...

So he could literally be anyone. Thats a pretty big nail in the Saints coffin, if he's even interested in finding them. All the resources? So they could get in a VTOL shoebox and leave. They could possibly leave by VTOL but it seems Blackwatch has the New York Zone on lockdown "no one gets in ...

So did you seriously make a thread so some guys could hide until plot saves the day? Fucking thrilling stuff there. Much of the saints backup will be unavailable (it's spotty in a city they totally control, let alone one where hey have no friends and is under martial law and under attack by the hul...

SAY WHAT?! :wtf: Did he honestly say that?! Yep. Prove what I said is wrong. We got gameplay and cutscenes both match so I don't see what the problem is, you say its all BS okay why, what bits am I ignoring? I showed proof, the only thing people keep saying is that its unrealistic, who cares if the...

Sorry dude as I've said a few times, I haven't seen any silly saints stuff that needs dismissing in order for mercer to trivially defeat them. What your bleating overlooks is that in prototype all enemies are superhuman (literally) and thus the saints being fast or having regenerating health just d...

only person I see without a helmet and certain to be alive is Roboute Guilliman the fucking primarch of the Ultramarines. the funny while Warhammer isn't hard scifi by any streach of the imagination it has internal rules and it's quite possible quantify it. gamer I said before there's intelligent w...

Man, someone sounds utterly butthurt. I like the point where you insist I have to prove your speculation wrong. I suspected this was REALLY about the TA debate. You never bothered to read the board politices when you joined, did you? And if you're referring to KNF I already provided the quote regar...

Holding your breath doesn't work in a vacuum come on now, and wasn't he fighting outside the ship for hours, and no a non-planet sized spaceship can't have its own atmosphere without magic its simply not massive enough, did that book in particular mention an atmosphere? Someone either has a problem...

Holding your breath doesn't work in a vacuum come on now, and wasn't he fighting outside the ship for hours, and no a non-planet sized spaceship can't have its own atmosphere without magic its simply not massive enough, did that book in particular mention an atmosphere? Someone either has a problem...

You mean 'a year'? Cause the saints are sooooooo good at keeping a low profile, right? I love it. 'All this shit totally supports my claims of vague yet amazing powers, but it doesn't matter ebcausethey'll just hide lol' Comparing a gang leader with regenerating health to monsters that will literal...

You mean 'a year'? Cause the saints are sooooooo good at keeping a low profile, right? I love it. 'All this shit totally supports my claims of vague yet amazing powers, but it doesn't matter ebcausethey'll just hide lol' Comparing a gang leader with regenerating health to monsters that will literal...

Well the vaccuum thing is pretty silly because he's basing it on his INTERPRETATION. of 'breathing in space.' I mean heaven forbid that they might do something as outlandish as 'hold their breath' right? I mean 'Brothers of the Snake' had them holding their breath for 15-30 minutes IIRC (or at leas...

Well gamer has something of a history of making poorly definied claims with little to no actually evidence and assuming we must do the work in determing if the vids he has posted actually "say" what he claims they do (or even if they're useble to begin with). I got a feeling he'll just co...

ok gamer. lets do this. let quantatize the gigatons out of Saints Row: mechanisims are irrelavnt. Names are irrelevant, we're intrested in quantifiable effects. So: let's start with saints flow: 1) how long does it take a typical human to run 100m in SR? 2) how long does it take when ripped? Just t...

Guys he's using that Saints Flow ad as evidence for why drinking an energy drink will help the Saints vs the blacklight virus. Seriously. I already showed you the video of how super charged Saints Flow acts during gameplay, the ad was just showing there is at least some evidence that it acts like t...

Anyway in Saints Row cutscenes actually match the gameplay, I don't see why we can't take feats displayed in game and in cutscenes if that is the only thing we have and there isn't any conflict between them. As for Saints Flow considering they have the tech to create zombies and mind control talkin...

It doesn't address the inherent forces that limit gameplay and why treating them as a 'documentary' is not always a useful or simple approach. But he's again just arguing method instead of his actual scenario. Is anything in Saints Row a threat to the black light virus? Probably not, possibly the V...

They're even more useless because of realities of production; the sacred cutscenes that are 'more true' for some reason are often made early before all kind of things are changed or by a different team that isn't paying attention. It isn't just the famously inaccurate ME cutscenes; it's every game ...

:wtf: Okay then...that is ludicrous to a whole new level. I mean, I've never played Saints Row...but that is just...wow. That being said, I'm not the best person to define game mechanics (since I've never tried to debate them). But what I meant in the energy drink case, is that no realistic drink c...