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Except both O'brien and Vic have english as their first language... That just shows that even if they speak the same language, there's still confusion with words between a figurative meaning and literal meaning. In general, just because two people are human and appear to be speaking english, does n...

There's no evidence that particular quantum reality exists and even if it does, that doesn't mean that it ever made an appearance from the quantum fissure. I could just say there's another enterprise that has the cure for the degeneration T-Cell which spreads it all over using the same method. This...

Yeah, and you had the gall to be all "THAT'S NOT HOW I ENVISIONED IT IN THE OP, STAY ON TOPIC!!!!1111eleventy" at several points in this thread when people brought up valid counterpoints to your scenario. I didn't say the fissure couldn't be sealed. I said all hope of sealing the fissure ...

You dodged the question how the Federation will deal with all those new people. put them all in gas chambers. 285 million of them? Completely in secret? Without any of the others finding out, and revolting? And without anybody in the Federation finding out, and being unhappy about it? :wanker: :wan...

:roll: I didn't put a lot of thought into those arguments cus I was half asleep. Plus they were mostly copied from another site and a post I didn't want to make but the mod demanded an actual reply so I gave him one. The violation of the 3rd law of motion which I accidentally typed violation of 3rd ...

You dodged the question how the Federation will deal with all those new people.

put them all in gas chambers.

Pick a direction. Hyperdrive away. If they're feeling paranoid, take a few minutes to plot a course where they know they won't run into anything. It's not like the E-Ds can do something about it. Bzzzt. Wrong. You blithely assuming they are is NOT sufficient reason to assume so. The Imperials can't...

Actually it's a word that's been around for a long time, because unlike you, people around here actually know what it means. oh course they do, but the newb's have been throwing it around in the threads a lot lately though. Congratulations! You now have an incredible amount of mothballed starships....

You're appealing to picard578's authority? You might want to search the HoS before you go thinking his arguments hold water. and whose authority would you expect me to to appeal to instead? Mike Wong's? He has a degree in Mechanical Engineering sure, not in physics and just a bachelor's degree as I...

"An aircraft carrier is supposed to be the most powerfull ship in the United States Navy. Therefore it can sustain itself without any supplies". So they don't need fuel? Spare parts to replace broken ones? Food or other supplies? Ah, yet again another no-limits fallacy, and proof that you...

I think someone mentioned trying a force storm to destroy a bunch of the enterprise's and using the force storm to create a wormhole allowing the fleet to escape. This all assumes the emperor is onboard the death star or on one of the other ships though. I'd have to go refresh my memory to see how ...

hmm.. ok Appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy. Sure I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong, just that people haven't made much headway in convincing me otherwise. It's an extraordinary claim to st canon to say phasers don't vaporize when its stated in tech manuals, episodes, and by star trek writer...

Who cares? If they don't, they'll drain the Federations resources and they are not a threat to the imperial operations due to their low FTL-speed. Why would it be a drain? It's supposed to be the most powerful ship in the federation. They can sustain themselves if they had to except for maybe the o...

Great. Then the Federation did not only have to invest resources into reverting that thing, they are also back to having their pityfully small fleet and will get curb-stomped by the Empire. point is, if the empire retreats back to where they came from those no garantee that the fleet of enterprise'...

On a strategic scale, however, the Empire DOES win if they retreat (assuming that there are not infinte Enterprises which will destroy the universe). Because the Federation now has to deal withat least hundreds of thousands of starships, not all of them friendly, who require fuel and supplies. Food...

Your 'theories' conform with nothing. You want to have your cake and eat it too - you want literal vaporization to actually be occurring and at the same time make up pseudoscientific excuses out of thin air for why no literal vaporization can be observed. In essence, you are walking backwards from ...

Um-the evidence for that is...? Evidence by Riker not giving the order to hail one of the enterprise's of course. You're the one claiming there are precisely 285,000 enterprise's only. Where's your evidence to support that claim? It requires every single enterprise to be hailing that particular ent...

Which IS valid reasoning. If i do not observe something, i have no reason to assume that it does exist. Well of course there's on reason, the characters say it does. That's not what you said though. You said if you see no vapor then the vapor doesn't exist. That's invalid reasoning. http://safalra....

You obviously have evidence for that. Because if you don't, those 285,000 E-Ds are all you got. Obviously. The enterprise that worf was on did not hail anyone when the ships started appearing. This means that there are quantum states that exists where the enterprise does not hail when they first ge...

Ignoring the lack of truth in that sentence, what exactly DO we know? Oh, right - next to nothing. You are just making ship up again, mindlessly wanking stuff you know nothing about. we know there are lots of Enterprise-D's and the fleet is supposed to be engaging them and i'm asking who wins? Wow,...

darthy, you ignored my second example which is from the CG Clone Wars series. The inflating/deflating Malevolence. So SW still has T-Canon level space time compression technology at its service. You fail. You're right I did ignore it, what's all that about? :lol: I figured it was wrong. Let me gues...

Saying "i see no vapor, therefore it did not get turned into vapor" is perfectly valid and not a fallacy. ouch yes it is. That thing has fallacies all over it. Here's a couple: Negative Proof Fallacy and Denying the Antecedent in this format: 1. If P has been observed then P exists 2. P h...

Oooh, how cuuute :D - little darthy is trying to copy my argument. But darthy, you have to copy the argument, not the jokes. Don't worry, you'll learn, your mommy will show you. Here, that's what you made right: Any assumptions that the keyhole intersects finite or infinite quantum realities are un...

Sure. That's about the amount of vapor i get while boiling water in order to cook some rice or noodles. It's nowhere near enough to be the remnant of several pounds of flesh (which is the damage we see here). of course, that's why I called it an example of partial vaporization. So just because they...

TCW is T-canon. You even quoted yourself saying so. "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" animated series is T-canon "Star Wars: Clone Wars" is C-canon. It's a cartoon that aired between 2003 and 2005. These are different shows we're talking about. Do we get a clear shot of how much was i...