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One that blindly supports shitty writing for nearly 30 pages now. In his rebuttal, Raynor emphatically states that he regards TPM as one of the weakest of the Star Wars films and finds it "by no means perfect." This is antithetical to blind defense; he seems willing to acknowledge its fla...

I honestly don't have the interest to increase my commitment to this thread, and go point-for-point on the nuances of the American Revolution. It's utterly irrelevant to the point that was made, and either way, what would that prove? Oh no, my analogy to the American Revolution doesn't quite line u...

LOL, I come back after the Thanksgiving holiday to see that this thread is STILL stuck in the same stupid circle, being stalled by the same stubborn trolls. I said a while ago that this thread had degenerated into a joke. It is now a parody of that joke . Channel72 continues to pretend he has a poi...

If they keep making the same bullshit claims, or ones that are unbelievably stupid (like the one about TPM being a box office failure because it's only the 20th highest-grossing film ever made) then the one making the claim deserves scorn and ridicule for being an asshole. Never said it was a box o...

So let me see if I have this right. TPM reinforces the idea that the TF owns the senate both with dialogue and with action on screen, but its "pseudo-logic" to deduce they control the senate? They have enough Senators to obstruct the legal system from taking any action beyond "endles...

So because SOME Senators are bought off by Sidious or the Trade Federation (with the rest too dysfunctional or apathetic to lay down the law and take military action, similar to many large government and inter-government organizations in real life), ALL of them are? The opening crawl flat out said ...

Aye. Now, I find the word 'franchise' weirder. Your local McDonald's is probably a franchise store. That means that location is independently owned and operated; a local person owns the store, instead of the McDonald's corporation. But, it's still just like most other McDonald's in many ways - same...

True. However Raynor acting like it ONLY connotes a business annoys me. Seeing as they could just as easily be a government entity. Don't worry he'll come back and he'll underline the word trade a few more times.

The Trade Fed are the ones identifying themselves with the word trade. They have a trade "franchise," a word that rather clearly connotes business, in trade. Federation usually connotes a government entity. fed·er·a·tion noun 1. the act of federating or uniting in a league. 2. the formati...

A real, intelligent debate deals in objective topics with evidence. HAHHA What the fuck are you talking about? Are you really saying the only “intelligent” debate is about objective topics? Care to cite some examples? Would you like to debate, which is faster light or sound? That will be one hell o...

What I'm saying is even the good stuff about tpm is pretty meh. I'd be willing to be more forgiving of it's other flaws if something about it stood out from the crowd. I feel much the same way. My biggest complaint is the waste of potential. 30 years after ANH and THAT was the best Lucas could do? ...

Now they're claiming that it was "good writing" or whatever because Tarkin's unbelievable arrogance and stupidity at Yavin were somehow consistent with the arrogance that showed in his dialogue early in the movie. Sorry, he's still an unbelievable idiot. What do you like about movies? Bec...

The only quasi-factual claim offered by Stoklassa is that The Phantom Menace was a "massive failure". Care to put this claim in context with a citation? I don't believe he ever called it a massive failure in the sense you're using. He did, however, call it "the greatest case of blue ...

I wouldn't mind seeing DXIII debate Raynor (or Elfdart). However, what would the topic be? This thread is kind of all over the place. Also, Raynor has proven himself incapable of addressing actual points.

Insulting me for not agreeing with them, even as they make an ever-growing list of comically ignorant statements. No one is insulting you for not agreeing with them. We're insulting you because you seem to have an inability to connect the action characters take with their motivation. You don't thin...

All I know is the prequels made bags of cash, and got better reviews than the OT did as of their original releases to boot. (Go look. TPM got better reviews than ESB. LOL.) But there's a cadre of butthurt anti-fanboys who desperately want to believe "everyone" hated them, to the point tha...

He lied? Where? Where do you want me to start? An actual quote would be a start. Just because you and Stoklassa's other groupies accuse him of lying doesn't make it so. So you can either produce the quote in context or this is just projection on your part. HAHAHAHAHA. You've got to be fucking kiddi...

Good writers edit out irrelevant shit. BTW you really need to stop repeating your lies. He lied? Where? Where do you want me to start? Here's one how about continuing to claim everyone criticizing TPM were "spewing nonsense about negating a blockade by forcing everyone to hunt animals or eat u...

I've must agree with Destructionator XIII. Unless Raynor can stop lying, ignoring direct questions and stating the same tired argument. I don't see much point in engaging him. It's possible he's just too dumb to understand story structure, what a mcguffin actual is and how criticize works, but that ...

Because we're defending it from extremist fanboy criticisms which are just stupid, regardless of the quality of the movie itself. Stoklasa's review is mindless, shameless dishonesty from beginning to end, up to and including unsupported insinuations about the way Lucas treats his employees. Elfdart...

Batman wrote: Competent writing doesn't mean giving you what youwant, it means giving the target audience what[/i]they[/i] want. At that, TPM seems to have succeeded.

You're under the assumption that TPM was made for 10 year olds and only 10 year olds. I am not.

Here: Stoklasa's basic opinion was not the reason I took issue with his review. It was his try-hard attempt to argue Lucas not only as a flawed filmmaker, but a complete and utter imbecile who couldn't string together a basic series of events in a story. Lucas can't. The taxes are just one example ...

At which point have I defended TPM's writing? All I'm saying is that your (as in the people who think that for some arcane reason the Tax issue should have been elaborated on) are nuts. The Blockade/Invasion established what it was intended to establish-show the TF guys are the Villains. Mission ac...

Whoever said Lucas was a genius storyteller? It is generally agreed among fans that the PT is far weaker than the OT (possibly excepting ROTS). And why shouldn't the taxes be in the movie? The Trade Federation needed some reason to blockade/invade Naboo, why not taxes? Also, you assuming that 10 ye...

You did notice that one of the prime protagonists of TPM (the guy to save thew day by blowing up the Droid control ship-pretty much by writer's fiat, no less) was...a child. Which kinda sorta hints at the child audience being in their thoughts when they contemplated which audience to target the mov...