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- 2018-04-26 01:00pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Either I am backpedaling, or I am bunkering down on my points. Because it feels like you are accusing me of doing both at the same time. You were retreating to even more ridiculous vagueness while our discussion was going nowhere, if you want something closer to what I'm thinking. Then you closed o...
- 2018-04-26 12:32am
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Are you saying I should hunker down and not reconsider my points? ...no. SDN not being a centerpiece of academia doesn't imply academic discussion cannot be had here; it does imply, though, that we're not going to remotely change any sphere of the Left with the contents of a forum thread from a pla...
- 2018-04-25 08:25pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
From my point of view, being comfortable talking about Stalin's atrocities* isn't the issue. Talking about Stalin's atrocities is like pointing to the smoldering ashes of a building and saying "welp, that building sure burned down." To which I can only reply "it sure did." But t...
- 2018-04-25 02:26am
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
See, I get that. But at the same time, if we can't move past that we're eternally blinding ourselves to important parts of history, and that willful blindness is likely to cost us if/when we stop losing so damn much. So in part, I want to try to persuade people to be mindful of the history without ...
- 2018-04-23 05:49pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
I'm actually very happy with the argument "the problem-lefties you're talking about are scattered and irrelevant, not a coherent trend or wave that we need to be worrying about." There's a reason I didn't say anything about it. Maybe I should have, because now I want to point out that I d...
- 2018-04-22 09:34pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Well, I'm done. We're going back and forth ad infinitum and at this point I don't know how to convince you otherwise since now I'm up fighting against dishonest actors who caricature the Left, so I'm done. The Left has its own problems, I will not deny that, but particularly significant ones when lo...
- 2018-04-22 07:20pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Dragon Angel, you're misunderstanding my point. It's not about saying these minor or fringe groups are all somehow directly connected to each other, but saying they all exist within a similar eco-system, which draw upon many similar influences in how to engage in political discussions. In other way...
- 2018-04-22 04:30pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
I think you're missing the point. Groups and movements like that DO crop up and not having some degree of wariness about them is a great way to make them more likely. More or less this. My objection isn't about the specific merits of Ray's opinions, it's that bad things happen when we start saying:...
- 2018-04-22 04:21am
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Fun Fact: As a bald (mostly) white guy, I get approached as a comrade by skinheads and other supremacists a lot. I also get mistaken for a Jew frequently, and have enough experience to fake that if I want to. Just got one of those faces I guess. It gives me a long tether when it comes to fucking wi...
- 2018-04-18 05:03pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
That's not what I'm saying, or trying to say. Generally speaking, I consider myself as falling in line with the various progressive movements and I think the invention of SJW is nothing more than a polemic device to attack left-wing movements. I am not saying more and more people from the left are ...
- 2018-04-18 04:11pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
I think what I'm really trying to say is UPC's type of post are becoming more common. I don't think this is just a one-off case, and it's part of a wider cultural trend. You ... have to realize what you are doing now. UPC posted a series of posts where he misused an argument of morality to paint an...
- 2018-04-17 12:30pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
I don't deny that moral arguments are crucial and important. I just think that it's being overemphasised by the left even when it doesn't really help its cause. Sure, you can make a moral argument why guns should be banned, but you won't achieve your goals by demonising every gun-owners in the US.....
- 2018-04-17 02:16am
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
- Replies: 67
- Views: 22881
Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
While I don't agree with what U.P. Cinnabar did, I have to comment a little about the current state of political discussion in the US. It feels like this is part of an ongoing trend where an appeal to morality is the basic principle of political debate, rather than facts and nuanced discussion. Suc...
- 2018-04-04 10:54pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
- Replies: 34
- Views: 12967
Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ
I'm guessing they didn't want to get hit with anything for sharing incorrect information which they claimed was "confirmed by US authorities", so they memory-holed the old version. Beyond the obvious correction-of-bullshit, I'm glad this bit of info wasn't the case, as people can more eas...
- 2018-04-04 10:34pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
- Replies: 34
- Views: 12967
Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ
I can't speak for the OP, but as a wise man once said, archive everything . The legacy (and the new, for that matter) media has an adorable habit of retroactively altering stories without any reference to their having done so, or what was changed. But here is the link to the current story: I can't ...
- 2018-04-04 10:03pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
- Replies: 34
- Views: 12967
Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ
YouTube shooting: Aggrieved content creator behind attack at YouTube's San Bruno HQ I have, uh, a question for you, Zontargs. Is there a reason you had to post this specific link to the story? As in, a web archival link? Because I tried to go to the original URL located on top of that and the page ...
- 2018-04-04 09:41pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
- Replies: 34
- Views: 12967
Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ
Update: There is ... a fucking ton of fake information spreading around, as what usually happens after these events. I've been trying to google something and I can only come up with bigoted rumormongering and extremely questionable sources.
Don't believe the bullshit.
Don't believe the bullshit.
- 2018-04-04 09:03pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
- Replies: 34
- Views: 12967
Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ
I'm certain of one thing.The right and the Nazi Rifleman's Association will have a field day with her being trans. Is there ... actually evidence for this? Because searching through her very badly made even by 90's standards website doesn't even bring that up. Admittedly, I may have missed somethin...
- 2018-03-24 06:20pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Elon Musk Joins #DeleteFacebook With a Barrage of Tweets
- Replies: 39
- Views: 15500
Re: Elon Musk Joins #DeleteFacebook With a Barrage of Tweets
I quit Facebook years ago because of the utterly stupid "Real Names Policy" that ended up discriminating against people with non-European sounding names and trans people who hadn't changed their information yet. I'd thought of reregistering for it, but have been putting it off for a while....
- 2018-03-19 10:57pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Trump Dump: Internal Policy (Thread I)
- Replies: 2022
- Views: 707476
Re: Trump Dump: Internal Policy (Thread I)
Cinnabar, I'm going to try being as nice to you as possible, since I don't really know you very well. So, I have an important question for you. I'd like you to answer it as best as you can: Are you cracked , man? Or are you just badly trying to troll us? Imagine me holding my hand in front of you an...
- 2018-03-19 09:36pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
- Replies: 62
- Views: 16593
Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
In the USA's context, right wing ideological purity means more power given to the State and its military, less power given to the people, and corporate influence grows outer space high. Quick addendum since I literally just missed the edit window, this should also include possible religious influen...
- 2018-03-19 09:23pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
- Replies: 62
- Views: 16593
Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
Well, yeah. I'm hardly the only person in these discussions with an itchy trigger finger, so to speak, but I am very guarded against such criticism, both because some of that criticism is intended to undermine the party and/or split the opposition to Trump, and even when it isn't, if it is not phra...
- 2018-03-19 06:38pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
- Replies: 62
- Views: 16593
Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
See, I'm looking at this, and to me it seems equivalent to "this red-leaning district is so red-leaning that even their idea of a blue candidate is (so far) a disappointing shade of magenta. If so, so forget the magenta blue-in-name-only bozos. Either find a way for a true-blue candidate to wi...
- 2018-03-19 12:36am
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
- Replies: 62
- Views: 16593
Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
So... if I am understanding your argument correctly, the idea is that if the (left-to-center) part of the electorate in these districts is "tricked" into voting for a candidate that is 'no different from a Republican,' this will then backfire and they will give up, thus rendering the vict...
- 2018-03-18 07:06pm
- Forum: News and Politics
- Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
- Replies: 62
- Views: 16593
Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
I'm honestly not sure what false conclusions you feel that I jumped to. Both Soontir C'boath and to a lesser extent you are making what I feel are overly-broad attacks on the Democrats, and in Soontir's case going so far as to say that he'll register as a Republican, and posting an article advocati...