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by Dragon Angel
2018-04-26 01:00pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

Either I am backpedaling, or I am bunkering down on my points. Because it feels like you are accusing me of doing both at the same time. You were retreating to even more ridiculous vagueness while our discussion was going nowhere, if you want something closer to what I'm thinking. Then you closed o...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-26 12:32am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

Are you saying I should hunker down and not reconsider my points? ...no. SDN not being a centerpiece of academia doesn't imply academic discussion cannot be had here; it does imply, though, that we're not going to remotely change any sphere of the Left with the contents of a forum thread from a pla...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-25 08:25pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

From my point of view, being comfortable talking about Stalin's atrocities* isn't the issue. Talking about Stalin's atrocities is like pointing to the smoldering ashes of a building and saying "welp, that building sure burned down." To which I can only reply "it sure did." But t...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-25 02:26am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

See, I get that. But at the same time, if we can't move past that we're eternally blinding ourselves to important parts of history, and that willful blindness is likely to cost us if/when we stop losing so damn much. So in part, I want to try to persuade people to be mindful of the history without ...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-23 05:49pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

I'm actually very happy with the argument "the problem-lefties you're talking about are scattered and irrelevant, not a coherent trend or wave that we need to be worrying about." There's a reason I didn't say anything about it. Maybe I should have, because now I want to point out that I d...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-22 09:34pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

Well, I'm done. We're going back and forth ad infinitum and at this point I don't know how to convince you otherwise since now I'm up fighting against dishonest actors who caricature the Left, so I'm done. The Left has its own problems, I will not deny that, but particularly significant ones when lo...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-22 07:20pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

Dragon Angel, you're misunderstanding my point. It's not about saying these minor or fringe groups are all somehow directly connected to each other, but saying they all exist within a similar eco-system, which draw upon many similar influences in how to engage in political discussions. In other way...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-22 04:30pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

I think you're missing the point. Groups and movements like that DO crop up and not having some degree of wariness about them is a great way to make them more likely. More or less this. My objection isn't about the specific merits of Ray's opinions, it's that bad things happen when we start saying:...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-22 04:21am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

Fun Fact: As a bald (mostly) white guy, I get approached as a comrade by skinheads and other supremacists a lot. I also get mistaken for a Jew frequently, and have enough experience to fake that if I want to. Just got one of those faces I guess. It gives me a long tether when it comes to fucking wi...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-18 05:03pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

That's not what I'm saying, or trying to say. Generally speaking, I consider myself as falling in line with the various progressive movements and I think the invention of SJW is nothing more than a polemic device to attack left-wing movements. I am not saying more and more people from the left are ...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-18 04:11pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

I think what I'm really trying to say is UPC's type of post are becoming more common. I don't think this is just a one-off case, and it's part of a wider cultural trend. You ... have to realize what you are doing now. UPC posted a series of posts where he misused an argument of morality to paint an...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-17 12:30pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

I don't deny that moral arguments are crucial and important. I just think that it's being overemphasised by the left even when it doesn't really help its cause. Sure, you can make a moral argument why guns should be banned, but you won't achieve your goals by demonising every gun-owners in the US.....
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-17 02:16am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide
Replies: 67
Views: 22881

Re: Gun Lovers Stage Peaceful Protests At State Capitals Nationwide

While I don't agree with what U.P. Cinnabar did, I have to comment a little about the current state of political discussion in the US. It feels like this is part of an ongoing trend where an appeal to morality is the basic principle of political debate, rather than facts and nuanced discussion. Suc...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-04 10:54pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
Replies: 34
Views: 12967

Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ

I'm guessing they didn't want to get hit with anything for sharing incorrect information which they claimed was "confirmed by US authorities", so they memory-holed the old version. Beyond the obvious correction-of-bullshit, I'm glad this bit of info wasn't the case, as people can more eas...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-04 10:34pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
Replies: 34
Views: 12967

Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ

I can't speak for the OP, but as a wise man once said, archive everything . The legacy (and the new, for that matter) media has an adorable habit of retroactively altering stories without any reference to their having done so, or what was changed. But here is the link to the current story: I can't ...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-04 10:03pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
Replies: 34
Views: 12967

Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ

YouTube shooting: Aggrieved content creator behind attack at YouTube's San Bruno HQ I have, uh, a question for you, Zontargs. Is there a reason you had to post this specific link to the story? As in, a web archival link? Because I tried to go to the original URL located on top of that and the page ...
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-04 09:41pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
Replies: 34
Views: 12967

Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ

Update: There is ... a fucking ton of fake information spreading around, as what usually happens after these events. I've been trying to google something and I can only come up with bigoted rumormongering and extremely questionable sources.

Don't believe the bullshit.
by Dragon Angel
2018-04-04 09:03pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Shooting at YouTube HQ
Replies: 34
Views: 12967

Re: Shooting at YouTube HQ

I'm certain of one thing.The right and the Nazi Rifleman's Association will have a field day with her being trans. Is there ... actually evidence for this? Because searching through her very badly made even by 90's standards website doesn't even bring that up. Admittedly, I may have missed somethin...
by Dragon Angel
2018-03-24 06:20pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Elon Musk Joins #DeleteFacebook With a Barrage of Tweets
Replies: 39
Views: 15500

Re: Elon Musk Joins #DeleteFacebook With a Barrage of Tweets

I quit Facebook years ago because of the utterly stupid "Real Names Policy" that ended up discriminating against people with non-European sounding names and trans people who hadn't changed their information yet. I'd thought of reregistering for it, but have been putting it off for a while....
by Dragon Angel
2018-03-19 10:57pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Trump Dump: Internal Policy (Thread I)
Replies: 2022
Views: 707476

Re: Trump Dump: Internal Policy (Thread I)

Cinnabar, I'm going to try being as nice to you as possible, since I don't really know you very well. So, I have an important question for you. I'd like you to answer it as best as you can: Are you cracked , man? Or are you just badly trying to troll us? Imagine me holding my hand in front of you an...
by Dragon Angel
2018-03-19 09:36pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
Replies: 62
Views: 16593

Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM

In the USA's context, right wing ideological purity means more power given to the State and its military, less power given to the people, and corporate influence grows outer space high. Quick addendum since I literally just missed the edit window, this should also include possible religious influen...
by Dragon Angel
2018-03-19 09:23pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
Replies: 62
Views: 16593

Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM

Well, yeah. I'm hardly the only person in these discussions with an itchy trigger finger, so to speak, but I am very guarded against such criticism, both because some of that criticism is intended to undermine the party and/or split the opposition to Trump, and even when it isn't, if it is not phra...
by Dragon Angel
2018-03-19 06:38pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
Replies: 62
Views: 16593

Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM

See, I'm looking at this, and to me it seems equivalent to "this red-leaning district is so red-leaning that even their idea of a blue candidate is (so far) a disappointing shade of magenta. If so, so forget the magenta blue-in-name-only bozos. Either find a way for a true-blue candidate to wi...
by Dragon Angel
2018-03-19 12:36am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
Replies: 62
Views: 16593

Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM

So... if I am understanding your argument correctly, the idea is that if the (left-to-center) part of the electorate in these districts is "tricked" into voting for a candidate that is 'no different from a Republican,' this will then backfire and they will give up, thus rendering the vict...
by Dragon Angel
2018-03-18 07:06pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM
Replies: 62
Views: 16593

Re: Another Heavy GOP seat Flips to DEM

I'm honestly not sure what false conclusions you feel that I jumped to. Both Soontir C'boath and to a lesser extent you are making what I feel are overly-broad attacks on the Democrats, and in Soontir's case going so far as to say that he'll register as a Republican, and posting an article advocati...