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by Channel72
2017-01-07 07:11am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Mainstream news is often dog shit
Replies: 33
Views: 6530

Re: Mainstream news is often dog shit

People don't want facts, they want their worldviews confirmed. Yeah, and a few years ago I would have claimed this kind of tribalism was much more toxic on the right side of the political spectrum, but now I'm more inclined to wander into "false equivalency" territory and just claim that ...
by Channel72
2017-01-02 04:09pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread
Replies: 1306
Views: 256286

Re: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread

The issue isn't people so on the fence that one imperfect victim jeopardizes the movement. It's that if we wind up publicizing five victims and three or four cases out of five turn out to simply not be what we painted them as, that can add up to discrediting the movement in the eyes of people who r...
by Channel72
2017-01-01 11:58pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread
Replies: 1306
Views: 256286

Re: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread

There are millions of people who voted for Trump because they want the factory jobs back. They're going to be disappointed. I agree. And the 3 million truckers in this country are in for a shock when their jobs are taken over by self-driving trucks. There's little that conservative economic ideolog...
by Channel72
2017-01-01 08:40pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread
Replies: 1306
Views: 256286

Re: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread

The people who actually, God help them, voted for Trump need to learn a lot of lessons. Lessons about basic American civics, and about the importance of picking people who are at least slightly trustworthy for public office. And about how a man who would realistically not hesitate to rape his serva...
by Channel72
2017-01-01 05:48pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread
Replies: 1306
Views: 256286

Re: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread

I have to will myself to not wanting to physically assault people who bitched about Clinton having all these ties to Wall Street, acknowledge that by not voting for her they might as well have voted Trump, but then act like they are "above it all". Yeah, I mean... Clinton's ties to Wall S...
by Channel72
2017-01-01 05:25pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread
Replies: 1306
Views: 256286

Re: 2016 US ELECTION: Official Results Thread

^ yeah, I mean - the tape doesn't give authorities much to work with, regardless of any statute of limitations. He basically said "I pop a tic-tac in my mouth and then just start immediately kissing women, and they don't resist because I'm such an awesome celebrity." Then he suggested that...
by Channel72
2017-01-01 02:16pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: US abstains UN condemnation of Israel; Netenyahu throws Tantrum
Replies: 26
Views: 6759

Re: US abstains UN condemnation of Israel; Netenyahu throws Tantrum

K. A. Pital wrote:I find it funny when Netanyahu sounds just like Kim Fatty the Third.

Both are nuclear powers and both have a manchild ruling them.
Nuke-wielding man-children are totally in this century. My country will be ruled by one in like a few weeks.
by Channel72
2017-01-01 12:25pm
Forum: Pure Star Wars
Topic: Rogue One (Spoilers)
Replies: 714
Views: 236034

Re: Rogue One (Spoilers)

Shouldn't Worf have a Russian accent? No. Worf Rozhenko is an all-American hero. Or maybe some systems revolted and are currently being put down by other Imperial forces. Not that it matters. Between the battles of Scarif and Yavin, the Rebels' long-range fighter force has been almost wiped out and...
by Channel72
2016-12-31 01:05pm
Forum: Pure Star Wars
Topic: Rogue One (Spoilers)
Replies: 714
Views: 236034

Re: Rogue One (Spoilers)

But the Imperials do take her seriously until the senate is dissolved. Though I doubt Mon Mothma and Bail Organa were hoping that revealing the Death Star Project would cause the senate to reign in the Empire and force an end to the project. They were probably hoping that by revealing the Death Sta...
by Channel72
2016-12-28 08:21pm
Forum: Pure Star Wars
Topic: Rogue One (Spoilers)
Replies: 714
Views: 236034

Re: Rogue One (Spoilers)

That said, it did build up the universe in non useless ways, though it also doubled down on the Empire must be 1 billion percent inept at everything crap. Nah... you must have missed the ending scene, after the credits, I guess. We see the Rebels loading up the Imperial files stolen from Scarif, on...
by Channel72
2016-12-28 06:35pm
Forum: Pure Star Wars
Topic: Rogue One (Spoilers)
Replies: 714
Views: 236034

Re: Rogue One (Spoilers)

It was meant as a moment of characterization for Saw (to show how ruthless he is) and for Cheerut & Blase (their compassion to Bodhi and their respective reactions to each other about his situation) It's a very minor complaint really - it was just such a strange moment. The takeaway I got from ...
by Channel72
2016-12-27 06:08pm
Forum: Pure Star Wars
Topic: Rogue One (Spoilers)
Replies: 714
Views: 236034

Re: Rogue One (Spoilers)

Finally saw this. Whatever - this kicked ass. But it kicked ass in a way I can admit is probably a bit too uniquely geared towards a die-hard Star Wars fan. The main flaw in this movie, which is probably less of a flaw for someone who posts on this board, is that this movie is only awesome because S...
by Channel72
2016-07-19 06:27am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

Which is why I don't really buy into arguments about gun restrictions mysteriously "not working". The real problem is the restrictions are too myopic - they are, by necessity, limited to certain jurisdictions. But criminals don't care about jurisdictions. Only federal level gun laws would...
by Channel72
2016-07-18 11:54pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

MKSheppard wrote:
Broomstick wrote:Chicago has highly restrictive gun laws. Illinois does not.
FOID required to buy/possess guns and ammunition in Illinois. ISP will take away your FOID if you're fucky.

Try again.
Which means nothing, since most criminals in Chicago get their guns from Wisconsin and Indiana.
by Channel72
2016-07-18 08:55am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

I would argue that there's evidence it's More Guns --> More Homicide. As I noted earlier, if it's More Homicide --> More Guns, then we should intuitively expect that the people who are most affected by homicide (inner city, low-income minorities) should be the most ardent gun owners. Yet, as far as...
by Channel72
2016-07-18 08:40am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

Also, regarding specific state-level and city-level legislation: many people point to Chicago or whatever as the go-to argument for why gun control measures inevitably fail. And I agree, they have a point. But the take-away from this shouldn't be that restricting access to guns is somehow fundamenta...
by Channel72
2016-07-18 08:03am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

The statistical relationship (between guns and homicide) is there, but because we cannot readily perform controlled experiments on human populations, you have to be very careful about assigning the meaning of those statistical relationships. If there is a causal relationship (which has not been det...
by Channel72
2016-07-18 02:10am
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

Gun ownership and gun deaths are statistically significant correlates , nothing more or less. As the study authors themselves say, "it is not possible in a panel study such as ours to determine causality." Yeah... and I never claimed anything more than that. As you obviously know, many pu...
by Channel72
2016-07-17 10:24pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

Channel72: you are misunderstanding the statistical concepts of correlation and aggregation. I am not misunderstanding anything. I am telling you you how the authors of the study themselves interpret the data. They see gun ownership (or wide availability of guns) as a statistically significant pred...
by Channel72
2016-07-17 03:11pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

Unfortunately I wasn't able to find Appendix A as it was locked behind a paywall. Yeah... that's fucking obnoxious. Since this subject is interesting to me, I was considering just purchasing the article, since I'd like to discuss it here. But unfortunately, their Terms of Service reads: You may not...
by Channel72
2016-07-17 02:36pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

^ What's the problem? I mean, yeah... the racial element here can't be denied. It's well known that black people disproportionately commit more crimes in the United States. And while it's hard to say that out loud without feeling... somehow... disappointed with yourself... facts are facts. But reall...
by Channel72
2016-07-17 01:46pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

Are you claiming the widely reported increase in gun related homicides in Baltimore is... all... lies?? It clearly is a lie; because as I have elaborated beforehand, almost every common sense gun control measure has been enacted by Maryland for Handguns; and as I have pointed out, handguns can only...
by Channel72
2016-07-17 01:16pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

All these laws over the last fifty years have made Maryland into the safest state in the Union. Everything you hear about Baltimore is a lie. Um... I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here, sorry. Are you claiming the widely reported increase in gun related homicides in Baltimore is... all... li...
by Channel72
2016-07-16 04:51pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

At the center is probably poverty. While in poverty one cannot do much, cannot build a future, cannot build a life, cannot feed themselves, cannot buy a house, cannot go to school, nothing. No prospects, no jobs. They have two choices really, take something to dull the pain or find a less then lega...
by Channel72
2016-07-16 03:04pm
Forum: News and Politics
Topic: Worldwide gun control disscussion
Replies: 349
Views: 71447

Re: Worldwide gun control disscussion

The incident in Nice has prompted a lot of jokes from gun rights supports, along the lines of things like "well I guess Obama will want to ban trucks now, LOL!", etc. etc. Firstly, the obvious flaw here is that trucks serve a critical purpose (the transport of cargo) in any functioning eco...